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What’s in the Cornerstone of Zion Memorial?

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What’s in the Cornerstone of Zion Memorial?

City of Ottawa archives
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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
19 Apr 1913, Sat  •  Page 19

The first stones In the foundation of this handsome new edifice were laid on May 18, 1911, the anniversary of the big fire (1910), (read-The Lost Photos & Words- Carleton Place Fire 1910) and the corner stone was laid on Coronation Day, June 22nd, by the pastor, Rev. A. A. Scott, M.A., the address being read by Rev. tr. R : P. McKay, moderator of the General Assembly. 

The corner stone contained the original copper casket recovered the congregation, latest reports of the church, Presbyterian Record, local and other daily papers and current coin of the realm. 

Fire in Zion Memorial Church January 1950

Another Example of Local Random Acts of Kindness- Zion Memorial United Church

The Lost Photos & Words- Carleton Place Fire 1910

Fire in Zion Memorial Church January 1950

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Fire in Zion Memorial Church January 1950

January 19 1950

Zion United Church, CarletonPlace, was practically destroyed in an early morning fire last Sunday. The loss is estimated at $150,000 according to present day values. Insurance of $35,000 was carried. It is understood the congregation has decided to rebuild the edifice in spite of the fact that there is another United Church in the town as is the case in Almonte. 

The caretaker of the church discovered the fire when he went to stoke the furnace about five o’clock in the morning. As he was about to leave the main body of the building at 6.45 he saw smoke curling up behind the pipe organ and when he went to investigate he found that end of the church in flames. It is thought the fire started in the boiler room because the room from which the flames broke out is located directly over the heating plant.

In the battle to quell the fire which followed one new member of the Ocean Wave brigade, Ken Drummond, was injured by a falling piece of masonry. His back was badly bruised. Another had a nail puncture through his foot. Rev. E. C. Kelloway is pastor of the church which has a membership of some 300. It is understood that an invitation to worship at Memorial Park United Church, temporarily, was passed over in favor of services in the town hall. 

Mr. H. R. Davey, local contractor and planing mill operator, was engaged on Wednesday to take lumber to the scene of the fire and make temporary repairs to the shattered roof. Mr. Davey found that the floor of the church was partly intact under a heavy layer of debris and ashes. The fine basement was not too badly damaged.

City of Ottawa archives

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Chris Redmond

Joann Voyce6 min. ago

Sorry Chris but it was never Zion United .They were Zion ( Presbyterian) and Memorial Park United. Zion was the Free Presbyterian as opposed to St Andrews on Bridge which was Church of Scotland

3 days ago

In that era it was simply Zion United Church — the “Memorial” came only in the 1960s when Zion (on Albert St) merged with Memorial Park United Church (on Franklin Street)

Dan Williams

3 days ago

At that time this was Memorial Park United Church. Zion United Church was where the condo’s now are at the corner of Albert and Beckwith. When they united they became Zion Memorial United Church. The church in the picture was never Zion United Church.

Ray Paquette

3 days ago

A point of correction. When that fire occurred the United Church, Zion and Memorial Park had not amalgamated. The fire occurred on a Saturday afternoon when most of the young boys who chased the fire trucks were occupied at the Roxy Theatre with the Saturday afternoon matinee, yours truly included. After the movie ended, we all left the theatre and tore down to Judson Street to watch the OWFC in action…

Joann Voyce

3 days ago

This was Memorial Park United from the union of the Methodist and Presbyterians It was originally the Methodist Church. Zion was always Zion Presbyterian until the most recent union

Bill Mains59 sec. ago

The church which burned in 1950, was Zion United Church, which was formerly Zion Presbyterian Church until it became Zion United at church Union in 1925. Memorial Park Methodist Church, became Memorial Park United Church in 1925. Memorial Park burned a few years later in the mid 1950’s and was restored. The two churches amalgamated to Zion Memorial about 1965 when the Memorial Park building became the sanctuary and the Zion building became the Christian Education building until it was sold some time after 1970.

HOW CHRISTIE STREET GOT ITS NAME by Chris Redmond

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HOW CHRISTIE STREET GOT ITS NAME by Chris Redmond

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HOW CHRISTIE STREET GOT ITS NAME

by Chris Redmond

The street that connects Coleman Street to the new subdivision near Walmart has a name now: Christie Street, in honour of a young man who played an unusual role in the history of Carleton Place before he died in battle in 1917.

He was John H. H. (for Hatchell Halliday) Christie, who came to the town, and to Canada, to be a student minister at the Methodist Church on Franklin Street (what’s now Zion-Memorial United Church). He was born in Ireland, in a village called Glenavy in County Antrim, and interrupted his studies to cross the ocean to help meet an urgent need.

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It was a difficult time for churches in Canada, with the population growing faster than the church leadership could find ministers to look after them. The problem was worst in the western provinces, and would continue until three denominations merged to create

the United Church in 1925, but the shortage hit home in Carleton Place when Dr. J. H. Sparling, the well-liked Methodist minister, died suddenly. (To be precise, he dropped dead while out on a bicycle ride.)

The best that could be arranged for a replacement was John Christie, the 23-year-old student who came over to serve as the congregation’s minister. He was quickly very popular, perhaps especially with the mothers of daughters, and he was well known

for his charming tenor voice. Someone noted that one of his favourite hymns was “When the Roll Is Called Up Yonder”. But World War I was starting, and within a year the roll call he was answering was that of the Canadian Army Medical Corps. He headed back across the Atlantic with the Canadian Expeditionary.

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September 1934–Memorial Park and United Church Carleton Place

Force; starting out as a private, he was soon a corporal, then commissioned as a lieutenant, and in early 1917 he was assigned to the 2nd Canadian Mounted Rifles. Within three weeks he was dead, killed near the village of Givenchy-en-Gohelle during the Battle of Vimy Ridge in April 1917.

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John Christie was one of five young men from Carleton Place who never returned from Vimy. He and other fallen soldiers were remembered at a service in the Methodist Church, where the four men’s photos were displayed at the front of the sanctuary, wrapped in a Union Jack. His body was buried in La Chaudière military cemetery near Vimy.

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John Hatchell Halliday Christie
2nd Canadian Mounted Rifles Battalion
10th April 1917, aged 25.​
Plot VII. C. 2.

Son of the Rev. William John Christie and Emma Jane Halliday Christie, of Barnbidge, Ireland.


It took until 1918 before the Methodist church found a new minister. After the war, in the 1920s, the area near the corner of Franklin and Beckwith Streets, which had been standing empty since Carleton Place’s great fire in 1910, was developed as Memorial Park. And when the Cenotaph was put up there, one of the names engraved on it was that of the Rev. John Christie.

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Newspaper Clipping – From the Perth Courier for 4 May 1917

Lt. Rev. John Hatchell Halliday Christie was 25 years of age when he lost his life on the second day of the Battle at Vimy Ridge. He too is buried in a Canadian war cemetery in France.

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A Pillar of Carleton Place– Remembering Ron Roe

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A Pillar of Carleton Place– Remembering Ron Roe

 

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I met Ron Roe the first week I moved to Carleton Place in 1981. In fact, he made a point to come and talk to me when he saw me outside in my yard. Anytime I saw him from that moment on he was very personable and always had a great story to tell.

We saw each other in passing many times throughout the years, and I considered Ron a great example of being a Carleton Place citizen. Whether it was being a town councillor, or preaching and singing at Zion-Memorial Church, or on the  Board of the Carleton Place and District Memorial Hospital–Ron was an important brick in the foundation of Carleton Place.

Everyone will have their own personal thoughts about Ron, but I think his proudest achievement was The Hall of Valour that was once located at the Victoria Public School on Edmond Street. I wrote about the Hall of Valour in 2012, and when I visited; I was surprised to see Ron Roe as the curator. I had initially come to do research on local town hero Roy Brown who shot down the Red Baron Manfred Richthofen. But, in a short matter of time Ron had me quickly immersed in the history of the Hall of Valour and why it was so important.

So who was going to remember all these valiant soldiers who fought for our freedom Ron asked? There are the Legions and the War Memorials but– was there anywhere that provided memorabilia that honour former Veterans who gave their lives in defence of their Country? Carleton Place was chosen specifically because it had a great record of involvement in both of the major wars of the past century and Ron was proud of that fact.

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Photo of Ron Roe from Mindy Merkley and Mary Cook

The concept of the Hall of Valour was “framed” by the Hon. Judge Matheson, of Kingston – the same man who created the design concept of Canada’s current flag.  Mr. Bob Campbell, was the Chairman of the Board, and Commander Jacques Levesque became the Vice-Chairman, and of course Ron Roe became the curator.

When I talked to Ron in 2012 he was not the same man I had met years before. His memory had begun to fade, and that infectious smile he once had was greatly waned. In the space of a year I noticed that Ron didn’t open the war museum as frequently, and word was he had moved into a seniors home.

The last time I saw Ron was at the senior’s home on Arthur Street when I visited Bill Bagg. Ron was waiting for the dining room to open sitting in a wheel chair chatting with Betty Robinson. I walked up to him and said,

“Ron, I don’t know if you remember me, but my name is Linda Seccaspina and I just want to thank you for all the work and love you have shown Carleton Place.”

Ron slowly got up from his chair with that same Ron Roe smile I remembered from years passed. He clasped my hand firmly with both his hands and said softly.

“I  have to apologize that I don’t remember you, but I want to thank you for remembering me.”

With that I gave him a giant hug and I was hoping to see him again, but our last goodbye was never said. Today I remember Ron Roe, as it’s hard to forget someone who gave us and the town of Carleton Place so much to remember. My love to Betty and family,

Linda Seccaspina

 

 

 

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ROE, Ron At the Perley-Rideau Veterans Health Centre in Ottawa on Saturday, November 25, 2017, Ron Roe of Carleton Place, age 87. Beloved husband of Betty Roe (nee Ratcliffe) of Morrisburg. Loving father of Mark Roe (Monica) of Montreal, David Roe (Jane) of Tucson, Arizona and Mary Casselman (Robert) of Morrisburg.

Ron will be fondly remembered by grandchildren B.J., Nora, Lorie, step-grandchildren Dale, Matthew and Geoffrey and numerous great-grandchildren. Predeceased by his parents Asa and Alice Roe (nee Armstrong) and his brother John Roe. Also survived by nieces and nephews. There will be no visitation or funeral service. Donations to the Perley-Rideau Veterans Health Centre would be gratefully acknowledged by the family. Online condolences may be made at www.marsdenmclaughlin.com.

 

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 The Hall of Valour is now being taken care of in Perth

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  22 Nov 1949, Tue,  Page 30

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  25 Jul 1953, Sat,  Page 14

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  10 Jun 1953, Wed,  Page 17

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  15 Sep 1949, Thu,  Page 38

 

 

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Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  12 Jun 1954, Sat,  Page 14

 

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 This photo of their building was taken May 29, 1930 when it was the Carleton Place Canadian newspaper office. That’s F.A.J. Davis, Asa Roe, Wilf. Hendry, George Healey, Ed McPherson, Agnes Dunfield, and Betty Currie posing out front.

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  09 Nov 1965, Tue,  Page 40

 

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Identified on back of photograph as Doug Guerard, may in fact be Ken Cook (as suggested by childhood friend, Ron Roe)– donated by Rev. Worden to the museum.-A Tale From Gordon Henry Worden

 

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun andScreamin’ Mamas (USA)

 

 

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