Clippings and Notes about Neelins in Carleton Place — Genealogy

Bill Russell

We lived next door to Art and Mae when I was just a young lad. I remember Mr. Neelin writing me notes to bike over to Edwards store to buy him cigarettes. I can still remember sitting on the porch visiting. My dad used to give Arthur a shave when he needed help in his later years. After your dad passed as kids we took turns visiting overnight with Mae. There was a big cookstove in the kitchen that was the sole source of heat. They lived on Park Avenue, we lived at 129. This brick was there home. They were a great couple

Bill Russell many thanks, I remember the house, and the stove. I was there as little girl. I m very thankful for all the information

Nancy Hudson

Arthur and May Neelin lived across the street from my husband’s parents on Park Avenue. Glen was a childhood friend of my husband Fred and his brother Lorne

Mrs. W. Neelin

CLIPPED FROMThe Montreal StarMontreal, Quebec, Canada11 Mar 1946, Mon  •  Page 12

CLIPPED FROMThe Montreal StarMontreal, Quebec, Canada11 Mar 1946, Mon  •  Page 12

Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museu 

This candid shot of Sarah Jane “Jean” Dolan was taken in the front yard of the Dolan home at present day 344 Bridge Street. In the distance is the Gillies’ stone house on the corner of Bridge and Townline Road, with the steeple of the Baptist Church in the distance.

Sarah was born in 1880, the daughter of John Dolan and Letitia Kirkpatrick. Raised in Carleton Place, she trained as a nurse at the Protestant Hospital in Ottawa, and remained on staff after graduating.

Engaged to Dr. Neelin in 1908, Sarah fell ill with a cold after spending a weekend in Carleton Place. She went to the doctor for medication, and died suddenly the next day. It’s believed she was given the wrong prescription. Jean died on October 27, 1908 at the age of 28.

It’s National Nursing Week and we thank all nurses, past and present, for your service and compassion.

Photo-Joann Voyce

The buildings on the north side of High Street were rented houses owned by John McEwen, William Neelin, William Moore and Henry Wilson; and the homes of Mrs. John Bell, Arthur Moore and James McDiarmid; together with Joseph Pittard’s wagon shop, and two doors west of it near the future Thomas Street corner, the new foundry enterprise of David Findlay. —Howard Morton Brown

William McDiarmid’s Golden Lion Store will be lighted by gas in a short time, and will have a gas light on the street corner. –

April 12, 1882.

In 1861, the McLean’s owned the building. In 1877, William McDiarmid gained
ownership of the premises after Struthers owned it. William McDiarmid took over
William Neelin’s general store in 1870 – the Golden Lion Store on the North West
corner of Bridge and Emily Street. By 1882, the store had gas lighting.

William Neelin

Tom Mitcheson

An organization in Carleton Place with these newer ideas for the conservation of practically all main forms of wild life was formed in 1884. Under the title of the Carleton Place Game, Fish and Insectivorous Birds Protective Society it continued to operate for some years. Original officers of the group were William Pattie, president ; Jim Bothwell, vice president ; Walter Kibbee, secretary-treasurer, and committee members John Cavers, Tom Glover, John Moore, Jim Morphy and Jim Presley ; elected at a May meeting in the old fire hall on Bridge Street, when a constitution drawn up by Robert Bell was adopted. Other members pledged to support the rules of this pioneering wild life protective society were William Beck, Peter Cram, Jim Dunlop, John Flett, David Gillies, Charlie Glover, Tom Hilliard, Archie Knox and Tom Leaver ; Hugh McCormick, William McDiarmid, Hiram McFadden, Jim McFadden, Jim McGregor, George McPherson, William Neelin, Robert Patterson and William Patterson ; Dr. Robert F. Preston, Alex Sibbitt, William Taylor, William Whalen, Will R. Williamson, Alex Wilson and Joe Wilson. Out of town sportsmen among the first members were Duncan Campbell, John Gemmill, D. G. MacDonnell

Fenian Raids

Raids from the United States upon border points were made in 1866 by groups known as Fenians, whose professed objective was political independence for Ireland.  The Carleton Place and Almonte volunteer companies were dispatched to Brockville in June.  Captain of the Almonte company was James D. Gemmill.  Total of all ranks serving from Carleton Place numbered fifty-seven.  Under local officers Captain James C. Poole, Lieut. John Brown and Ensign J. Jones Bell, they included such Carleton Place and township family names as Burke, Coleman, Cram, Dack, Docherty, Duff, Enright, Ferguson, Fleming, Hamilton, Kilpatrick, Leslie, Lavallee, Moffatt, Moore, Morphy, and McArthur, McCaffrey, McCallum, McEwen, McFadden, McNab, McNeely and McPherson, Neelin, Patterson, Pattie, Rattray, Sinclair, Stewart, Sumner, Williams, Willis and Wilson.

Glen Arthur Neelin

Thanks to Tammy Marion

He and his family e.g. Mother – Edith May Graham and Father – Arthur Gregg Neelin and 2 sibling brothers who died in infancy are buried in the Munster Union cemetery, Ottawa. Glen’s wife’s name Ann Nettbohm is on the headstone with him but no dates filled in for her

CLIPPED FROMThe Ottawa JournalOttawa, Ontario, Canada17 Sep 1947, Wed  •  Page 14

The Carleton Place Legion Kings were Eastern Ontario Champions in 1953.

Front row, left to right: Ozzie McNeely, Theo Giles, Bill Ferguson, Don Hastie, Glen Neelin, Argyle Drummond.

Back row, Alan Trotman, Glen Symes (?), Bill Argue, ___, Joe Drader, Gus Saunders, Bill Fraser. Coach Harry Paquette. Batboy ______ Paquette.

The photo was taken by Ernie Foote. Can you help fill in the names?

Ray Paquette

Yes. The front row is Harold “Ozzie” McNeely, Theil Giles, Billy Ferguson, _Hastie, Glenn Neelin, Argyle Drummond: back row; Al Trottman, ?, Bill Argue, ?, Joe Drader, Gary Saunders, Bill Fraser. By the way, the team was sponsored by the Carleton Place Optimist Club..

Bill Mains

I have a fairly complete list of Glenn’s ancestors, most of whom are among the pioneer families who settled near Munster and Ashton, ON.

CLIPPED FROMThe Ottawa JournalOttawa, Ontario, Canada20 Aug 1968, Tue  •  Page 30

CLIPPED FROMThe Vancouver SunVancouver, British Columbia, Canada19 Aug 1968, Mon  •  Page 7

Tammy Marion

From the Ottawa Citizen – Dec.9th.1976

Cindy Stevens McFadden

There was a family of Neelins lived on park Ave when I was growing up. They had one son whom I believe passed away prior to their deaths and he had one daughter. 

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Thanks to Jennifer Fenwick Irwin at the CP Museum..

Neelin Street: after William Neelin (1828 – 1900), inspector of taverns, street commissioner 1873, land owner.

Mrs. Chatterton Mrs. Chatterton

 

Duncan McIntosh and operated as a hotel under the name of McIntosh House, it was bought in 1882 by the widow Mary J. Chatterton. By 1886 she has sold to Peter Salter, who ran it until about 1890. The Chatterton House Hotel guest register dating from 1886 to1889 was transferred from the City of Ottawa Archives Photo to the Carleton Place & Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Mrs. Mary Chatteron was the mistress of flirtation and also had rather a large appetite, and she is one of my favourite people of Carleton Place. She owned what is now the Queen’s Hotel for several years in the 1800’s. As legend goes, Mary Chatterton ran a lot of her “Chatterton House” in the Queen’s Hotel alleyway. It was well reputed that Mrs. Chatterton served more than alcohol to her clients!

An advertisement for Chatterton House read: “the proprietress has spent a large portion of her time in catering to the wants of the travelling public and this house has become justly famous for its good cheer and pleasant associations.” 

She later sold it to Albert Salter. Mr Salter according to newspaper reports in June 1 of 1899 had reconstructed the old Chatterton House with a veneering of brick- raising it two stories and added a large wing. Obviously that was not working out.

On the 20^th of October 1899 it was noted in the newspaper that Mr Salter, proprietor of the well known Queen’s Hotel in Carleton Place had disposed of the property, with Mrs Chatteron once again being the purchaser. The price was noted being up into the double tens with five figures.

 

The newspaper account reported Mrs Chatterton had conducted a business on the same site some years ago and was a most amiable and obliging hostess. Mr Salter had purchased the property from her and added much to the accommodations to suit the requirements of the times. “He retires after a successful career and will devote his energies and wide resources to the perfection and personal superintendence of the Queen;s Royal hotel at Lake Park which will be enlarged and greatly improved in many respects before the opening of the news season. In the meantime he and his family will live privately in town.”

IN 1900 Albert Salter gave up the then Queen’s Hotel and it looks like he was a hotellier of all trades. It was documented in the newspapers that he took possession of the Revere Hotel which was on the corner of Bridge and High Street. That seemed odd as in another newspaper report it was mentioned that in 1900 Mr J Mc Claren of Perth bought the Revere Hotel had bought the hotel for $2700. So it seems Mr. Salter was micro managing many businesses, running the place, and did not own it. Nothing different than what happens in today’s world.

On 7 Nov 1900 the Ottawa Journal reported that Mary Chatterton had taken over the complete management of the Queen’s Hotel. There was no word if the alleyway business re-opened. Today I found more genealogy about the family, so documenting it.

 

One thing about Mrs. Chatterton who owned the Queen’s Hotel among other businesses– she owned a lot of local property
Clipped from The Ottawa Journal, 08 Sep 1905, Fri, Page 11

MARY JANE NEELIN (BARBARA MORPHY, JOHN, EDMOND) was born 1856, and died June 1920 in Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada. Jeremiah F Chatterton and Mary J Neelin married on Tuesday, November 4, 1873 in Carleton Place, Lanark, Ontario. 

1881 Lanark County, Carleton Place (Village)

 

46 CHATTERTON EVA 7 46 CHATTERTON LERRY 33 46 CHATTERTON MARY 27

 

Child of MARY NEELIN and JEREMIAH CHATTERTON was: 

i.

EVA5 CHATTERTON, b. 1874

James (Hilliard) MacDougall was the son of Duncan MacDougall and Harriett Hill. He was born November 6, 1866 and married Eva Chatterton on November  14, 1894 at St. James Church in Carleton Place.

 Perth Courier, November 30, 1894

McDoogal-Chatterton—Married, at Carleton Place on the 15^th inst., at the residence of the bride’s mother, by Rev. Archibald Elliott, rector of St. James Church, Mr. J. Hill McDoogal to Miss Eva Chatterton, only daughter of Mrs. M. Chatterton.

006557-94 James Hill MACDOUGALL, 27, commercial traveller, Canada, Carleton Place, s/o Duncan & Harriet MACDOUGALL, married Eva CHATTERTON, 20, Canada, Carleton Place, d/o Jerrimiah (as written) & Mary CHATTERTON, witn: Charles BURGESS & Caroline NERLIN, not given, 14 Nov, 1894 at residence of bride’s father Carleton Place

There was a discrepsency of course where they were married. Was it at St. James or her mother’s home.

James Hill MACDOUGALL and Eva Chatterton had 6 children.

 

 

 Mary Neelin Chatterton’s sister

Caroline G. Burgess (born Neelin), 1869 – 1915 married Charles F. Burgess.They had 2 sons:  and Caroline Neelin Burgess was Mary Chatteton’s sister.

Perth Courier, December 7, 1894–Burgess-Neelin—Married, on the 28^th November at the residence of the bride’s sister, Mrs. Mary Chatterton, by Rev. John Grenfill, Mr. Charles Frederick Burgess of Galetta, Carleton County, son of John Burgess, Esq., of Baltimore, Ontario to Miss Carrie Neelin of Almonte, daughter of William Neelin, Esq., of Carleton Place.

Seems like Mrs Chatterton lost her child or they had been fighting over her before his death.. Perth Courier, March 31, 1882

Life Insurance—The late Mr. J. Chatterton of Carleton Place had taken out an endowment policy for $1,000, designating the payment of the sum should go to his little daughter Eva on his decease. An order has been issued by the High Court for the payment of the sum as soon as the guardian of the child has been appointed.

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  09 Jun 1899, Fri,  Page 4

 

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Mrs. Chatterton, Prostitutes, and Things You Maybe Don’t Want to Hear

Perth Courier, March 31, 1882

Life Insurance—The late Mr. J. Chatterton of Carleton Place had taken out an endowment policy for $1,000, designating the payment of the sum should go to his little daughter Eva on his decease.  An order has been issued by the High Court for the payment of the sum as soon as the guardian of the child has been appointed.

 

Why did Mr. Chatterton make such a demand? Why wasn’t Mrs. Chatterton, her mother, mentioned? If you have read my stories you will remember that Mrs. Chatterton was owner of the Queen’s Hotel in Carleton Place and also ran a ‘ladies of the night business’ on the side in the alleyway of the hotel. So it is no wonder that Mr. Chatteron found her an unfit mother.

Prostitution

The Victorian era was infamous for its prostitution. This may be due to the fact that some people believed that venereal diseases could be cured by sexual intercourse with children. This is why most prostitutes during this time were no other than children. A girl in the lower class, from ages 12 to 18, was paid 20 pounds; a girl in the middle class, of the same ages, was paid 100 pounds; and a girl of the upper class, 12 years old, was paid 400 pounds per job. This was way more money compared to a skilled worker of a normal job who only made about 62 pounds a year.

Since prostitutes made a large sum of money, it was the number one reason that women became prostitutes. Another reason women went into prostitution was because other jobs for women were limited and didn’t make nearly as much money. Prostitutes were more socially liberated than women in other classes. Prostitutes could also gather in pubs, meanwhile respected women could not.

Prostitution was not just good and lucrative, it was also very problematic. Although there were a number of prostitutes, there was still not enough to meet the demands. As a result, pimps, men who managed prostitutes, would go out and kidnap little girls to bring them into prostitution. Finally, there was the larger problem of venereal diseases.

A large majority of prostitutes had syphilis before they reached the age of 18. Soldiers and sailors in the army and navy were starting to get these diseases from the prostitutes which led to the Contagious Diseases Act. This law states as followed:

“Should a member of a special force or a registered doctor believe that a woman was a common prostitute (a term left undefined), then he might lay such information before a Justice of the Peace who was then to summon the woman to a certified hospital established under the act for medical examination. Should she refuse, then the magistrate could order her to be taken to the hospital and there forcibly examined and if found, in either case, to be suffering from venereal disease, then she could be detained in a hospital for a period of up to three months. Resistance to examination or refusal to obey the hospital rules could be visited with one month’s imprisonment for the first offence and two months for any subsequent offence. They might, however, submit voluntarily to examination without a magistrate’s order, but if infected became liable for detention”

After this Act was enforced, women of this time formed the Ladies National Association for the Repeal of the Contagious Diseases Act. They tried to get the Contagious Diseases Acts repealed. Finally in 1886, these acts were repealed and were replaced with a new legislation. This legislation entitled the Criminal Law Amendment Act. These acts gave more protection to children from becoming prostitutes, made homosexuality a crime, and made the basis for prostitution to eventually become illegal.

 

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  20 Oct 1899, Fri,  Page 4

Chatterton House was located in what we now know as The Queen’s Hotel at 142 Bridge Street. Built in 1870 by Duncan McIntosh and operated as a hotel under the name of McIntosh House, it was bought in 1882 by the widow Mary J. Chatterton. By 1886 she has sold to Peter Salter, who ran it until about 1890. Photo-Carleton Place & Beckwith Heritage Museum

8413-98 (Lanark Co): Washington PARSONS, 54, widower, millwright, of Arnprior, s/o Elias S. PARSONS & blank HARRINGTON, married Margaret FLEMING, 41, of NY state, d/o William FLEMING & blank BEAT, witn: Howard SINCLAIR & Mary CHATTERTON, both of Carleton Place, 14 Nov 1898 at Carleton Place

 

 

Caroline G. Burgess (born Neelin), 1869 – 1915

Caroline G. Burgess was born in 1869, at birth place, to William Neelin and Barbara Neelin.

Caroline had 7 siblings: Mary Jane Chatterton, Eliza Neelin and 5 other siblings.

Caroline married Charles F. Burgess.

They had 2 sons: Basil S. Burgess and one other child.

Caroline passed away in 1915, at age 46.

Jeremiah F Chatterton and Mary J Neelin Married on Tuesday, November 4, 1873 in Carleton Place, Lanark, Ontario.

MARY JANE⁴ NEELIN (BARBARA³MORPHY, JOHN², EDMOND¹) was born 1856, and died June 1920 in Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada.She married JEREMIAH F. CHATTERTON.

Child of MARY NEELIN and JEREMIAH CHATTERTON is:

i.

EVA5 CHATTERTON, b. 1874

 

Eva married  James MacDougall

 

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun and Screamin’ Mamas (USA)

 

 

Hell on Wheels at Lady Chatterton’s Hotel in Carleton Place

Tales of the Chatteron House Corset — Queen’s Hotel in Carleton Place

The First Mosh Pits in Carleton Place — The Opera House of the Chatterton

What the Heck was Electric Soap? Chatterton House Hotel Registrar

House Hotel

John Sparrow’s Royal Parilion – Chatterton House Hotel Carleton Place