So Where Was this Picture Taken? Springside Hall? Jamieson Sisters

Photo Doug and Jake Caldwell- Jamieson Girls

So I looked at this photo Saturday and thought that this fence looked familiar. Once upon a time the fence at my home was like this. It looks like there picnic was my the yard as the strip of wild growth is on the Campbell Street side and you can see the Cliff/McCann/ Sweeney home on the corner of Campbell and Lake Ave East.

Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum 1920s (that sidewalk is sunk deep into the earth- some of it was removed for the walkway in the 90s)

Same pictures in the early 1900s and with the Cliff/McCann/ Sweeney home on the corner

Summertime
Photo by Penny Trafford of being kids sitting on the fence on Argyle Street on the Springside Hall fence

I guess we will never know… but it sure looks like it.

Vintage Photos of the Gals — Caldwell Jamieson Dunlop Reunion – Part 4

Heilans Lanark Caldwell Reunion 1899 — Caldwell Jamieson Dunlop – Part 3

The White Pines of Carleton Place — Caldwell Jamieson Dunlop Reunion – Part 1

The Second Location of Darou’s Bakery in Carleton Place?–Caldwell Jamieson Dunlop Reunion – Part 2

Cecil McCann on the Campbell Side of the house. My house in the background.–Photo-Susan McCann

Stories about Springside Hall

More on Springside Hall– Other Owners

Moving Doorways– How Houses Change — Springside Hall Then and Now — Finlayson Series

The Hidden Dumbwaiter in Springside Hall –Finlayson Series

The Story of a Local Family -Finlayson- Richard Finlayson

The Case of the Disappearing Back Staircase — Springside Hall — Finlayson Series

A Houseful of Whimsy- Springside Hall 1982

Do You have a Hidden Room in Your Home?

What Did Adam Dowdall Find in My Carleton Place Yard?

The Sundial of Springside Hall

Then and Now Springside Hall 1920s-1930s Photos

Reusing the Past of Carleton Place — The Morphy’s and the McCann’s

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

My Neighbours –Photos of the Cliff- McCann House and Springside Hall

Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

The Spirits Are Alive and Well

They Once Lived in My Home– The Cram Children — Margaret — Angeline “Babe” and Arthur

They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

The Hi- Diddle-Day House of Carleton Place – Puppets on a String

Glory Days in Carleton Place– Linda Seccaspina

So Where Does the Water come from Under my House?

The Ghost Lovers of Springside Hall – A True Love Story

Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Feeling Groovy by the Lake Ave East Bridge

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

What if You Had a Fire and No One Came?

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers — Part 2 — To Hell and Back

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers

Dumbwaiter Calamities of Crockery

While You Were Sleeping —-The Storyland Bunny Moves to the Hi Diddle Day House

More on Springside Hall– Other Owners

Photo thanks to Jennifer Fenwick Irwin and the Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

For a long time we have all know there were other folks that lived in this house beside the Morphys, Crams and Reaburns, but we could not figure out who. Until this morning, thanks to the kindness of Jennifer and the museum. First of all it was The Raeburns not George Ray Burn in the article. Then we find out the other owners were the Morphy’s, Merricks, Johnsons and then the Crams, and finally the Reaburns. I have lived in Springside Hall since 1981.

Thanks Jennifer for adding on more info that was not known.

Moving Doorways– How Houses Change — Springside Hall Then and Now — Finlayson Series

The Hidden Dumbwaiter in Springside Hall –Finlayson Series

The Story of a Local Family -Finlayson- Richard Finlayson

The Case of the Disappearing Back Staircase — Springside Hall — Finlayson Series

A Houseful of Whimsy- Springside Hall 1982

Do You have a Hidden Room in Your Home?

What Did Adam Dowdall Find in My Carleton Place Yard?

The Sundial of Springside Hall

Then and Now Springside Hall 1920s-1930s Photos

Reusing the Past of Carleton Place — The Morphy’s and the McCann’s

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

My Neighbours –Photos of the Cliff- McCann House and Springside Hall

Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

The Spirits Are Alive and Well

They Once Lived in My Home– The Cram Children — Margaret — Angeline “Babe” and Arthur

They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

The Hi- Diddle-Day House of Carleton Place – Puppets on a String

Glory Days in Carleton Place– Linda Seccaspina

So Where Does the Water come from Under my House?

The Ghost Lovers of Springside Hall – A True Love Story

Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Feeling Groovy by the Lake Ave East Bridge

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

What if You Had a Fire and No One Came?

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers — Part 2 — To Hell and Back

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers

Dumbwaiter Calamities of Crockery

While You Were Sleeping —-The Storyland Bunny Moves to the Hi Diddle Day House

The Paquette Boys – Wilma Stevens Part 2

Your Wilma Stevens post this morning brought back a “flood” of memories. This time of year my brother Tedd and I would be spending most of the summer at Tom and Wilma’s cottage-at Longview Island on Mississippi Lake, opposite Squaw Point on the 9th line of Beckwith. The original cottage was built in 1938 I believe and included a wood shed, an ice house, and an outhouse with a boathouse on the mainland accessed from the 9th line. The Nichols owned half the island and later built a cottage on a point facing the mainland which they made available to relatives. It was recently listed for sale as “170 Longview Island” although, it has been substantially renovated and updated from what I remember as a boy! Read So Who was Wilma Stevens of Carleton Place? Nichols Family History

Following Uncle Tom’s death, the cottages and land were sold to Harry Probert who had plans for sub dividing the property and selling lots. I don’t know the circumstances surrounding subsequent events but the cottage and a portion of the land became the property of Tom’s son, Bill. He owned it for a number of years and subsequently sold the main cottage and what property remained to the current owner. Mr. Probert Was able to sell a lot to Mike and Irene Papworth (nee Chamney) and I believe the cottage on the point to the Sample family from Richmond.  You must remember that I was not in Carleton Place during these later years, so my recollections are second hand and therefore probably  not accurate.

In later years, Aunt Wilma lived her final years in the seniors residence at 126 Sussex Street.

By the way my mother’s name was Viola not Violet..

Regards,
Ray

Interestingly, the house at the north east corner of Queen and Munro, formerly owned by Lloyd McFarlane, was built on the same floor plan… Before and After in Carleton Place –The Doctor is in!

The Old Morgan House — Ray Paquette and Gord Cross Memories

Then and Now–SRC– Ray’s Recollections

Memories of the Almonte Gunners Thanks to Ray Paquette

The McNaughton Farm– Memories Ray Paquette

Glory Days of Carleton Place–This and That–Ray Paquette

Arthur Street The Burgess House and Dangerous Places- Ray Paquette

Ray Paquette’s Memories- McNeely and the Mississippi Hotel and Doughnuts?

The Devlins and Weldon Armour– Ray Paquette

Signed Sealed and Delivered with Tom New — Ray Paquette

Candy Stores Shoes and Plungers– Ray Paquette

What’s in a Picture?- Mill Street– Ray Paquette

15 Cents for a Movie– Memories of Ray Paquette

Memories of the Olympia & Howard Little Fire-Ray Paquette

Remembering Evelyn Clark — Larry Clark

The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
01 Feb 1969, Sat  •  Page 1

There was an attempt at some point to have my mother being given credit for her heroics for the house fire in 1969, but nothing came of it. ( read-The Heroine of Lake Ave East — 1969) Personally I just wanted to forget about it. All my efforts were directed to getting Dad back on his feet. The community helped considerably. As long as I can remember she looked after the children of others; in some part to supplement her income, but mostly because of her love of children in distress. It seemed to run in the family as her father Alfred was a “Home Boy” (Barnardos). (Read Canadians Just Wanted to Use me as a Scullery-Maid)

Afred- The first photo is of my grandfather taken on his entry into Barnardos care–photo Larry Clark courtesy Lost and Found by BY JESSICA ROSE | NOVEMBER 27, 2017

My mother’s mother died of typhoid in 1917 (Smiths Falls Hospital but they lived on Moffat St) and a year later my mother and an older brother were put up for adoption. An older daughter was kept another 4 years, I believe the Spanish flu may have been a factor as my grandfather became ill and had trouble keeping the family together. Long story being chronicled somewhat by my granddaughter, currently living in Lisbon engaged in writing a book about her adoption and includes the Mallindine family history.  We were not told of this granddaughter until she was 38. She was adopted by a Jewish family and her name is Jessica Rose.. ( Lost and Found by BY JESSICA ROSE | NOVEMBER 27, 2017)

Larry Clark and his wife Beth 1958-photo Larry Clark courtesy Lost and Found by BY JESSICA ROSE | NOVEMBER 27, 2017 The other is of Beth and I taken in an upstair’s neighbours apt (above us)-first hame in France Aug 1959.

Related stories-The Heroine of Lake Ave East — 1969

Lost and Found by BY JESSICA ROSE | NOVEMBER 27, 2017

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
01 Feb 1969, Sat  •  Page 1

A woman and her 21-month-old granddaughter were killed and two other children thrown to safety near here Friday when fire tore through their frame farmhouse. Dead are Mrs. Evelyn Clark, 53, and Darlene Warren, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Donald Warren who live in a farmhouse adjacent to the Clark home about one-half mile east of here.

Two foster children who had been living with the Clarks, Gilbert Warwick, 4, and David . Forget, 2, were flung from a second-storey bedroom window by Mrs. Clark before flames reached them. The children both were permanent wards of the Perth District Children’s Aid Society were not seriously injured. Gilbert is staying with friends of the family and David is under observation in Carleton Place and District Hospital.

Mrs. Clark was not seen at the bedroom window again and it is presumed she was engulfed in the flames as they spread through to the second floor as she was trying to rescue her granddaughter. The wood-frame house was an inferno in a matter of minutes, firemen from Beckwith volunteer fire department reported. Two hours after the 1.30 p.m. blaze was reported, the building was razed. . Mrs. Clark’s husband, Norman, 54, two of their own children and two other foster children were away from home at the time of the fire. Relatives said the granddaughter was staying with Mrs. Clark because her mother was undergoing surgery in hospital here. Fire Chief Bob Brooks said that by the time firefighters arrived at 1.40 p.m. there was little they could do. Cause of the fire is under investigation by the Ontario. Fire Marshal’s Office. Lanark County Coroner Dr. W. J. Hanham has ordered an inquest into the deaths.

Larry Clark Memories : Billings Bridge, Willow Trees and the Orange Lodge

Glory Days in Carleton Place– Larry Clark

Larry Clark — Your Veribest Agent

A Personal Story — Caught in the Ice– Rocky Point- Larry Clark

Tales from the Ghost Story Wagon– 1- Alligators on Lake Avenue East

 

 

Saturday I wore an oversized green rhinestone alligator necklace on my Ghost Story Ride for Pumpkinfest. First thing I asked everyone? Why I was wearing this huge thing around my neck that fit more into a hip hop video LOL. Of all the people that came on board only two folks knew the reason why.

I wore it because of the sign originally put up by David White at the corner of Lake Avenue East and McNeely, where the clay pits once were and later turned into a swamp. Now there are condo buildings there. All that sign said was :“No swimming …Alligators” Colleen White Comden said: “This is my dad’s (David White) sign. I remember when he put it up and was getting a kick out of it. He has a great sense of humour and and particularly enjoyed an article about it that was in then local paper a few years ago.”

This sign still exists on the wall of the foyer at Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum. It is a great collectors piece, so make sure you drop in to see it.

 

Years ago I had Next Gen signs make me a replica and it was on the chain fence for a couple of years thanks to Ralph Shaw and then Hydro took it down.

 

For years the No Swimming Alligators sign sat on a tree the swamp where they used to  get clay for the brick factory. No one really ever did see an alligator, but then again you can’t really be sure.

In August of 1935  in Waterloo, Ontario a six – foot alligator had been seen by two people in the marshy section adjoining the Bridgeport Road. It appeared to be much more fact than fiction.  The Town Engineer C. B. Necker received a letter from H. Gordon Green, tanner and local fur dealer. Mr. Green advanced the suggestion the alligator seen here might have been one that escaped from his yard in the spring of 1934. Mr. Greene said the animal that escaped was six feet long and a female.  A year later a young boy found a small alligator in the waters of the same area. Was it offspring from the escaped one?

 

In 2008 the swamp was drained  and trees cut down for apartment buildings. So what happened to the Alligator of the Lake Ave East Swamp? No one knows for sure, but I might check the Coleman apts..:). You just never know.!

 

 

One of our local poets Carol Stephen even wrote a poem about it. Photo- Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Photo Mike Jeays

Mike Jeays took this photo a long time ago so we can remember what once was. 

 

Photo by Fred Meredith

 

 

You Can Still See the Alligator Sign if You Look!

So What was in That Old Alligator Hole Anyways in Carleton Place?

Gluten Free Corn Dogs and the Old Carleton Place Alligator Hole –Chef Ben White

Roots Boots and Brick Yards

Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum
November 30, 2020  · 




Who else used to skate here? This photo of the Irwin family on the frozen “No Swimming, Alligators” swamp at Lake Avenue East and McNeely Avenue was taken in 2002.

The Sundial of Springside Hall

Around the beginning of the 1900s the Crams moved into my home on Lake Ave East in Carleton Place called Springside Hall by the original owners the Morphys. There was a sidewalk on the left that people could come and stroll the grounds, but no sundial.

I would say in the 1910-1915 era, the Crams invested in a concrete sundial as you see here on the circular median in the driveway.

Here are the Crams on the porch in the dead of winter with the sundial in full view.

Here Mrs. Cram stands beside the sundial with the McNeely/Bracewell home in the background. The top of the sundial remained until the Reaburns sold the house to Mr. Faulkner. When we bought the house everything was stripped by Mr. Faulkner including the top of the sundial. We bought the house with a hole in the roof and a light bulb left.

Richard Finlayson

Your home has such an interesting history.  The black and white picture is how I remember it from my childhood. Tall stately trees that provided tons of shade in the summer. I also remember the sundial! I had totally forgotten about that.  My brothers and I would totally make up an imaginary times like its 3:37pm. Lol.  I’m glad I could share my memories with you

A pond was built with a fountain and this is how it looks today.

So what is left of the sundial? It sits in the backyard of my mother in law still catching the suns rays.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun and theSherbrooke Record and and Screamin’ Mamas (USA

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place. Tales of Almonte and Arnprior Then and Now.

Then and Now Springside Hall 1920s-1930s Photos

Reusing the Past of Carleton Place — The Morphy’s and the McCann’s

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

My Neighbours –Photos of the Cliff- McCann House and Springside Hall

Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

The Spirits Are Alive and Well

They Once Lived in My Home– The Cram Children — Margaret — Angeline “Babe” and Arthur

They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

The Hi- Diddle-Day House of Carleton Place – Puppets on a String

Glory Days in Carleton Place– Linda Seccaspina

So Where Does the Water come from Under my House?

The Ghost Lovers of Springside Hall – A True Love Story

Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Feeling Groovy by the Lake Ave East Bridge

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

What if You Had a Fire and No One Came?

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers — Part 2 — To Hell and Back

Just Another Day in Fawlty Towers

Dumbwaiter Calamities of Crockery

While You Were Sleeping —-The Storyland Bunny Moves to the Hi Diddle Day House

You Can Still See the Alligator Sign if You Look!

 

 

Thanks to Ralph Shaw the alligator sign I had made is back on the fence at the Lake Ave East and Francis Street intersection. For years the No Swimming Alligators sign sat in the swamp where they used to  get clay for the brick factory. No one really ever did see an alligator, but then again you can’t really be sure.

You really, really don’t want to be bitten by an alligator. A 2004 study of wild and captive alligators found that large individuals bite down with 13,172 Newtons–or 2960 pounds–of force, one of the most powerful bites ever recorded for a living animal. That’s a heck of a bite!

 

Do you really know what really lurks around these trees at night?

 

Thanks Ralph Shaw for putting the signs back!!

While on the lookout for alligators, you should remember to occasionally look up. American alligators, as well as several other species of crocodylian, are fairly accomplished climbers. As long as there’s enough of an incline for them to haul themselves up, gators can climb trees to get to a better basking spot, or get the drop on you, as the case may be.

 

The  original sign that once sat on the Lake Avenue East swamp now has  a permanent home at the Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum on Edmund Street.

 

One of our local poets Carol Stephen even wrote a poem about it. Photo- Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Photo Mike Jeays

Mike Jeays took this photo a long time ago so we can remember what once was. Where did the alligator from the Brick Yard Swamp go after the buildings were built? I don’t know about you but I might check the basement of those condos. But make sure you turn the lights on first!!

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place and The Tales of Almonte

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun  Screamin’ Mamas (USA)  and The Sherbrooke Record

So What was in That Old Alligator Hole Anyways in Carleton Place?

Gluten Free Corn Dogs and the Old Carleton Place Alligator Hole –Chef Ben White

Roots Boots and Brick Yards

My Neighbours –Photos of the Cliff- McCann House and Springside Hall

Summer 2017- The Sweeney family lives here now and the Nephin’s bought it from Laurel McCann.

Mr. W. Cliff and his wife Susannah (Sussie) Cliff once owned this home on the corner of Lake Ave East and Campbell Street.  Mr. Cliff had once been the editor of the local Carleton Place newspaper. The Central Canadian and was said to be a very fluent and flowery writer. The local newspaper was founded in January 1876, under the sponsorship of William Bredin of Carleton Place, with William W. Cliff of Napanee as editor and publisher.  There were 1,800 persons living in Carleton Place at the time. The Man Who Received the Carleton Place Newspaper for Life

The next residents were the Cecil T. McCann family. He was the proprietor of the local downtown pool room and had once been a resident of Westport. He and his wife Laurel (Costello) had a family consisting of: Marilyn, Karen and Thomas. Laurel McCann was my friend, and if you think I am outspoken you never met Laurel. She was one of a kind, and I will forever miss her.

 

Photo-Susan McCann

The original fireplace in the McCann home. Kate Sweeney says it no longer exists as it was replaced with less ornate bricks and stone and converted to gas. But, the amazing original French doors are still there- Kate says they are really unusual as they’re set at 90 degrees to each other. Structurally, they’re pretty unique from what she has seen.

She also added when the new extension was added the original external windows were kept, so they can see both from the kitchen and sitting room into the sun room.

 

Cecil on the Campbell Side of the house. My house in the background.–Photo-Susan McCann

Susan McCann’s Father burning leaves. Remember those days? You can see Springside Hall with the original fence. When we bought it- it had a white picket fence. Originally, there was concrete pillars with pipes as a fence. The carriage house is in the back and we tore it down in 1988 as it was falling down. You can see the white summer  kitchen on the back of the house. That was not there in 1981 when we bought the home. There was just a hole in the ground where it had been, and we built the stone addition and garage where it was. Photo-Susan McCann

 

Susan McCann’s Aunt Marilyn on the front porch of the McCann home. That veranda was taken down and stored in the garage. I bought it at Laurel McCann’s auction sale when she moved. It is now my side veranda on Campbell Street.

 

Laurel McCann’s front veranda is now my side vernada on Campbell Street.

 

This photo was on the McCann pool room wall–Susan McCann sent this to me last night along with some photos of my home.. This is a blast from the past in Carleton Place. This would be the iconic Cecil McCann and the other old lads in the restaurant. The sign says Dorothy’s Tea Room which became The Eating Place. Photo-Susan McCann

 

 

Tom Edwards– Lori Rothwell. Bought lots of Howick jeans there from her and Mrs McCann at the Korner Kupboard. (She had great taste)–Elenor Rothwell is in the edge of the pic as well. Photo-Susan McCann

Photo thanks to Wendy Healey 1973-1974

 

Springside Hall was once an entire block belonging to the Morphys and the Crams. The home was built in three cycles. The Morphys  in 1867. The Crams added an addition in 1910 and my family in 1988 and 1995. The Cram family ran the local tannery on the site of the present senior building on Sussex Street. Their family consisted of a son Arthur,  who passed away in a motorcycle accident on High Street in the 1920s and two daughters.

After the Cram parents died the girls moved to McArthur Avenue into a home formerly owned by Franklin Abbot. Mr. George Raeburn a CPR station agent and his wife Mae Finlayson bought the property and later had it surveyed and sold the back portion to J. Arthur Hobbs and his wife Kaye McLeod who built a house on it. After the Raeburns, it fell into another family’s hands for a year until the bank took it over.

We bought it in 1981 and the first person I met was Muriel Simpson who just walked up to the back of a tall ladder Ange was standing on. Laurel came out of her house with her constant cigarette in hand telling Muriel to go back in the house and give us a breather LOL. Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

 

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun and Screamin’ Mamas (USA)

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

Reusing the Past of Carleton Place — The Morphy’s and the McCann’s

In Memory of Tom McCann

Memories of the Bracewells of Carleton Place

The “Margaret Thatcher” of Campbell Street

Reusing the Past of Carleton Place — The Morphy’s and the McCann’s

In Memory of Stuart White of Carleton Place

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

1979thanks to Joann Voyce

They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

 

22 year-old Arthur (Art) Cram died in a motorcycle accident on High Street in Carleton Place in July 29, 1929. Photo from the Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  15 Jul 1929, Mon,  Page 7

 

The service took place in the house, so I assume it was done in the foyer here. The mile long cortege began at my home on Lake Ave East down Moore Street and Franktown Road until the cemetery.

Springside Hall–Vintage Carleton Place & Beckwith

 

 

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun andScreamin’ Mamas (USA)

 

 

CRAMS

More “Clippings” on the Local Crams

The Rosamond Christmas Party 1863-or- When Billie Brown and I Slid Down Old Cram’s Cellar Door

After I Read an Obit About Mrs. William Cram I also Found Out

Donald Cram — Nobel Prize for Chemistry

Searching for Elizabeth Cram–Updates on Andrew Waugh

Searching for Joey Cram of Carleton Place

I Now have Part of Joey Cram

 

Springside Hall

 

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

What’s Changed in Your Home in 40 Years?

Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

Time Capsule in the ‘Hi Diddle Day’ House?

October 13, 1977 George W. Raeburn of Lake Ave East— Artist and C. P. R. Man

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

The Hi- Diddle-Day House of Carleton Place – Puppets on a String

The Ghost Lovers of Springside Hall – A True Love Story

Glory Days in Carleton Place– Linda Seccaspina

So Where Does the Water come from Under my House?

Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Feeling Groovy by the Lake Ave East Bridge

The Spirits Are Alive and Well

What if You Had a Fire and No One Came?

 

Now You see it, Now You Don’t: The Disappearing and Reappearing of the Tim Horton’s Subterranean

Photos by Bill and Carole Flint= The Sky Pilots

A disappearing stream or subterranean (under Tim Horton’s Franktown Road) is the term used to describe a stream or a river, which flows into a sinkhole or a crack. There is a geological reason for this vanishing act: the bedrock under Tim Horton’s on Franktown Road is made of early Carboniferous (around 325-360 million years old) limestone. Limestone is prone to dissolving when it comes into contact with slightly acidic rain water, creating of fissures, sinkholes, and underground channels and caves (Pike Hole) that surface water can escape into.

In the past the stream flowed down Rochester Street where memories of opening up basement windows to let the flood streams go through are still talked about. Then it flows under my house (Springside Hall on Lake Ave E.) where in the Spring before we bought it and installed sump pumps after the first Spring the basement waters would be about 4-5 feet deep.

From there it flows into the old stream at the bottom of Lisgar Street where that stream was once a lot bigger. Big enough to warrant a small bridge on Lake Ave East where there was a small bridge near Beckwith Street. The staff at Nichols/Waugh used to clean their work tools in the stream on a daily basis on the corner of Lake Ave East.

But, where does it come back to the surface again? It is commonly stated that it reappears a few miles downstream and flows out at the arena. I asked our popular photographer John Rayner to shoot some photos, if he was near the arena, so we can see where it finally flows out into the Mississippi River.

So thanks to John here it is.

All Photos courtesy of John Rayner 

These are just some of his fabulous photos–see the rest his Lanark Couty photos here on his blog The AC is Always On..

                      Go to about where there is a path between the ball fields.

 

That scene above was to my back as I looked at the drain pipe.pipe (metal) below.

There is another drain pipe (plastic) to the left as you look toward the river from the path, but it didn’t look as though it had discharged anything for awhile.

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I was able to go down the embankment to look back at the drain pipe (the metal one).

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A young nimble-footed person might have been able to get to where your stream enters the Mississippi, but I am neither young nor nimble, so I took a few photos back up on the trail, all to the right (toward the arena) of the drain pipe above. You can see where they meet up below, with your stream being on the foreground.

​All Photos courtesy of John Rayner

So that’s all I’ve got for you. You might see better later in the fall when all of the leaves have fallen.

I didn’t know about this, so it was fun to explore and find it.

Thanks John!!

— I grew up on Lake Ave. E. in the last war time house. We played in treasure valley a lot. Spring time we would build a raft in the pond in the valley and skate on it in the winter. Summers we played house at the ledges of rock going into the valley. One time some boys had bows and arrows. The end of the arrow had a nail on it. As we were running home guess who got an arrow in her little behind. That’s right me!

 

Photo-Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum-This map dates to 1868 with updates in red done in 1873. Rochester Street didn’t exist in 1868 “This has become the division line by length of occupation”. The name Rochester is penciled in red in the 1873 update along with “this part of Street laid out by third parties”.

Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum The stream crossing under 12 Con. (now Lake Avenue East) had A BRIDGE! (at the corner of Beckwith Street). This stream still runs, mostly underground, but is visible in backyards along Argyle Street, and then again along Sussex Avenue.

Is that part of Tannery Creek? This is the barn where Canadian Tire was..

Peter Iveson-– There was Tannery Creek– it emerged on the east side of Beckwith Street and ran between the MacDougal House and where Canadian Tire was, then run under the CPR tracks and eventually went through the old dump and into The Mississippi River.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun and Screamin’ Mamas (USA)

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

“The Tim Horton’s River” Under my House.. Is That the Way To Fraggle Rock?

Feeling Groovy by the Lake Ave East Bridge

Did You Know we had a %^&* Creek in Carleton Place?

Where Was One of the Open Air Rinks in Carleton Place?

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

Winter —Rochester Street Looking North– Before and After

Friday October the 13th– 6:30.. meet in front of the old Leland Hotel on Bridge Street (Scott Reid’s office) and enjoy a one hour Bridge Street walk with stories of murder mayhem and Believe it or Not!!. Some tales might not be appropriate for young ears. FREE!–

Here we go Carleton Place– Mark Your Calendars–
Friday October the 13th– 6:30.. meet in front of the old Leland Hotel on Bridge Street (Scott Reid’s office) and enjoy a one hour Bridge Street walk with stories of murder mayhem and Believe it or Not!!. Some tales might not be appropriate for young ears. FREE!–

Join us and learn about the history under your feet! This year’s St. James Cemetery Walk will take place Thursday October 19th and october 21– Museum Curator Jennfer Irwin will lead you through the gravestones and introduce you to some of our most memorable lost souls!
Be ready for a few surprises along the way….
This walk takes place in the dark on uneven ground. Please wear proper footwear and bring a small flashlight if you like.
Tickets available at the Museum, 267 Edmund Street. Two dates!!!
https://www.facebook.com/events/1211329495678960/

OCT 28th
Downtown Carleton Place Halloween Trick or Treat Day–https://www.facebook.com/events/489742168060479/