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Comments About The Pine Room — Highway 15

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Comments About The Pine Room — Highway 15

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Ted Hurdis –-Pretty sure this was at the corner of Hwy #15 and the 10th line. There’s a chip wagon there now.

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Photo of the present building where The Pine Room once was.. Photo-The Crispy Spud

Andrea McCoy Yes it was right where the chip wagon is. I believe it burnt down– I worked there my first paying job–There was the dining room with the stucco walls. Then a more casual eating area with a counter and stools and tables and then the store.
I cannot remember the cooks name….nice guy. Worked there with Bud, June and their daughter Leslie. There is a son too. I am sure there are a few of us with stories to tell.

Janice Tennant Campbell— Hwy 15 and 10th Line was Brook’s Store when I was younger.

Lorelei Brunton Worked there as cook summer 1980.

Maureen Myhers My aunt and uncle Bud and June Savage along with their son Paddy and daughter Les owned it and I also worked there, great place to eat,drink and socialize. Maureen McGrath

Janice Tennant Campbell Linda Seccaspina it was a grocery / variety store then as far as I remember. I’ll have to ask Mom Bob Brooks owned it. We used to stop there or at Shackleton’s at Blacks Corners on the way to the Cottage.

Debbie Roy I remember that place. My Aunt Helen and Uncle Howard owned it and ran it as a grocery store during the 1970’s. But I can’t remember who bought it from them

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Tammy Marion  – This is a picture I took in the kitchen of the Pine Room some time between 1976 and 1980..My brother had just started working there as a cook ( in the plaid shirt ). He loved to cook.. I can’t remember the man’s name on the right and I don’t know who the girl is in the background. Other’s may know..

Ted Hurdis  Farook Assada ran it.

Tracy Diane Cindy Dakers Regimbald you used to work there!

Ann Stearns Rawson There was also an oil delivery service there but later torn down. At one point someone named Savage ran the restaurant.

Sandra Rattray It was Bob Brooks gas station and grocery store

Wendy Healey Went there for dinner Prom Night one year

Donna Mcfarlane Jim Murray had the first store there .. He moved a cabin from the 11th line there and opened a wee store late 40s i think cant remember the ones who owned it in 54 but I remember they were held up

Mike Dakers Before it was a restaurant, it was Bob Brooks BA gas and service and our local store and hangout. I worked there at nights and weekends pumping gas and cutting grass. With a push mower O might add. It took 2-3 days to cut lol. Think i made .50 cents and an abundance of glass bottle coke and chocolate bars. Bob was also the first fire chief of Beckwith fire co. And my father Duncan was Deputy Chief. That was in the mid sixties for me. And after that, it was turned into the pine room restaurant, owner was a man named Bud Savage, and later on his son took over. I might add also, my sister worked as a server there also. We did just live right across the road. Good memories.

Paul Todd Gloria’s Father and I frequent the Pine Room at lunch time when we built at the corner of 15 & 10th line

Linda Gallipeau-Johnston OMG Yes – as teenagers we used to go to that station and I remember being in the Pine Room too. There’s 2 things that weren’t even on my radar!

Jo-Anne Dowdall-Brown Jeff Dezell we went there for our Grade 8 graduation!

Sylvia Giles–Use to go into the dining room for dinner with my Mom and Dad!!

Patti Ann Giles-When we lived on Doe Rd. 1975, I used to bike there with my 2 year old son to get him a popsicle. Owners were great people.

Jeremy Stinson It had stucco walls in the 60s/70s style with the tops of barrels with xxx on them. Ate there when I was a kid. Shanna Willis, there is an infamous story about your mother working there. The story involved swinging doors to the kitchen.

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Photos Donna McFarlane

Donna McFarlane–The Pine Room– here is a couple shots of the interior at a hockey banquet.. the one after fire was taken about 2 weeks after. It was added on to so many times I remember when Jim Murray moved one of the cabins from what was then the 11th line but is now near junction of 7 and 15..It was very small then-John and I had left the annual fire dept dance a bit early to go down east.. there was a lot of static on his pager as we were on Queensway but without cell phones..did not realize it was a call.. That was the night of the annual dance that someone torched the pine room.

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Fire at the Pine Room- Photo donna Mcfarlane

Hi Linda. Hope all is well with you and down at your end. I just wanted to mention to you that one of the old owners of the old Pine Room Tavern ( where the now Crispy Spud chip truck sits on 15 highway} recently passed away..Lanny Steele. He is in that picture I posted/sent to you way ack of my brother Gord working in the kitchen there and Lanny is in it as well. Just thought I’d let you know since you have written and posted about that place before….https://ottawacitizen.remembering.ca/obituary/franklin-steele-1082721931

Thanks to Tammy Marion

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If you Thought Today’s Rural Political Shenanigans were Something…

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If you Thought Today’s Rural Political Shenanigans were Something…

In August of 1937 from the great pen of the editor/publisher, Adelbert Stewart “Stew” Hanna came a ghastly worded editorial against a gentleman from Carleton Place. Anyone who thinks that the rural town shenanigans of this day and age is new could not be farther than the truth.

As Lanark County Geneoligical Vice President John Morrow once told me.

“From what I have heard over the years the Almonte Gazette’s then editor/publisher, Adelbert Stewart “Stew” Hanna was quite a character, especially when he was inebriated (which apparently was not that unusual), and was not above a bit of “yellow” journalism at those times, and this appears to be one of them. My father told me one time it was frequently Mrs. Hanna, not Stew, who oversaw the Gazette’s weekly publication because he was in no condition to do the job.

I also had occasion one time to sit down with Angus Edward “Gus” Dobbie, long-time editor of the Smiths Falls Record-News, who told me he and Stew Hanna maintained quite a running editorial battle in the pages of their respective papers. Gus Dobbie also commented about Norman E. H. Turner, who was editor and publisher of the Perth Courier during that time period, that Norm Turner was a great businessman as publisher, but as an editor “he couldn’t sharpen Stew Hanna’s pencils”.

Without further ado here is the Almonte Gazette editorial:

During the last week a number of anonymous letters have reached The Almonte
Gazette office in which the writers indulge in some rather severe criticism
of the way workmen are hired on the Smiths Falls-Carleton Place highway
which passes through Franktown.

While we do not care to publish an anonymous letter, even though it may
not be libelous, we think some of the assertions, made in these communications
should be brought to the attention of those most concerned.


“Almonte Men Are “Out”

For instance, in one of these letters the statement is made that no Almonte man need apply for a job on this stretch of highway. It appears that Dr. A. Downing is the dispenser
of patronage on this Ontario Government project and, according to one Almonte man who claimed he asked him for employment, the Doctor said:

“When the road was being built beyond Almonte we didn’t get anything in Carleton Place and we are going to see that Almonte gets nothing now.”


Frankly, we don’t believe that a man like Dr. Downing would take such an attitude—at least we are very loath to believe it. In another communication there is some criticism of the experience in road building achieved by some of those who are holding down key jobs.

The Candy Kid


For instance, it is said that one, Mr. “Kid” Bryce is grading construction. It appears that Mr. Bryce’s knowledge of highway construction has been gained from the seat of a taxi-cab. We are not informed whether he studied the engineering problems included in this work, as he’ passed over the highway or whether he parked his limousine under the shade of a tree and observed the work between puffs of smoke from his indispensable cigar as he lolled back on the gorgeous upholstery.

At any rate the “Kid” seems to be the candy kid so far as the highway job is concerned. Those who know him best are tickled to death as they round a curve near Franktown to see that noble figure standing like Napoleon—-with legs wide apart—in the middle of the road directing the labouring minions employed by the Government.

An Exacting Gang Boss


“Show a little, more speed,” Kid will say through the corner of his mouth, as the boys slacken down under the blistering heat of the last few days,

“What do you think us taxpayers are paying you for if it ain’t to work.”

Now no one is impugning the ability of Mr. Bryce as a road construction foreman—provided the job requires no experience. For all we know Mr. Bryce may be a most experienced road builder-engineer. After all it is not up to a newspaperman to demand his credentials. Maybe he carries his testimonials around with him in the taxi-cab in the form of a framed certificate from Dr. Downing or some other master road builder


Be that as it may, Mr. Bryce is a majestic figure as he swaggers up and down the terrain with the cigar stuck out of one corner of his mouth and  the hard shell hat set at a jaunty
angle on that great brow. After October you may get a holiday and life will revert to what it always has been —one grand sweet song.

HIS EPITAPH
“As a taxicab driver he was a great road builder. Rest in Peace”

 

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Photo Linda Seccaspina

The original highway alignment via Ashton Station Road, Flewellyn Road, and Huntley Road was bypassed by a new straighter alignment in the late 1950s. A bypass was completed around Carleton Place in the late 1950s. The old alignment of Highway 15 through downtown became Highway 15B. In 1961, a major highway renumbering took place that saw Highway 43 extended westerly from Smiths Falls to Perth.

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  1. The Ottawa Journal,
  2. 06 Jun 1936, Sat,
  3. Page 5

 

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Highway 7 and 15 Notes from Karen Prytula

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Highway 7 and 15 Notes from Karen Prytula

 

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Map from Karen Prytula

Author’s note- When people send me interesting informative notes, especially someone like Karen, I like to make them available. Memories, notations, should be documented for future history.

 

From Karen Prytula– LCGS and Heritage Ottawa

The newspaper article you posted (When Things Come 360 –The First Automobile Fatality in Carleton Place– Torrance, Burgess, and Names Names) said the Torrance/Burgess family was headed to the Ashton Rd. This intrigued me somewhat, and so I pulled out my 1951 map, and the road to Ashton was Hwy 15!  Common knowledge to most, but what I did not realize was that 15 went right into Carleton Place (i.e. straight down the Franktown Rd., and straight down Bridge St. to the Town Line Rd, then veered left and went to Innisville, and then probably Perth).

You will also see there is no Hwy 7, going over the train tracks at the intersection of today’s 7 and Franktown Road.  If you stayed on the road it was probably dirt, and took you straight to the lake with no bridge to cross it like there is today if you were going to Perth.  i.e. if you were going to Perth back then, you would have to take the Townline route.

 If you were going the opposite way it took you straight to Ashton, then down what we called the 9th line, now known as Flewellyn Rd. I grew up on the 10th line (now Fernbank), one mile north of the 9th line.  We used to come to Carleton Place for gas on Sundays to gas up for the week.
Thanks Karen.
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Wendy LeBlanc- Hey, Linda, I always wondered why the (notice that we always used the word ‘the’ in front and never ‘road’ after) Town Line got changed to Townline Road. It was the Town Line when I left in ’66 and Townline Road when I moved back in ’88. Can’t think of why it would have changed. Did you know that it used to be Ontario’s shortest highway – #100?
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Crystal Jane sen this photo in. Thank you!
Hi Linda! I have an old photo of my grandpa when they were building Highway #7
His name is Ray Giles 🙂 thank you for posting it!! Such a great part of the heritage ! – considering every Carleton Place resident has driven that highway.

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Weekend Driving- Smiths Falls Franktown and Carleton Place 1925

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Weekend Driving- Smiths Falls Franktown and Carleton Place 1925

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Standing in front of the Smiths Falls, Hotel Rideau–Photo from The King’s Highway.

 

 

An honest to goodness story from the Ottawa Journal  August 18, 1925

In order to save gasoline we took the direct road from Smiths Falls to Carleton Place. It was 17 miles long and as narrow as a lodge resolution and covered with uncrushed stone. Our car had brand new tires guaranteed for 4000 miles and also an old spare.

In the first few miles driving on aggressive stone one of my tires blew. I immediately put on the spare which blew out when it saw Franktown. Pulling into Franktown, which is a place where they pull the sidewalks up on Sunday, we pulled up to a well for a drink of water. The awe-stricken natives manifested disgust from their window panes for the noise that our infirm wheels were making.

 

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The Reilly Hotel on the Franktown Road

Wand had no choice but to drive five miles on uncrushed stone on a flat tire to Carleton Place. Half way there we had no choice but to stop for a little peace in our minds. A motorist from Quebec  came up and parked behind us with the same automotive ailment. We joined in unison in praise for the inducements of which the province of Ontario has offered to their motorists.

 

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Bowland Garage Carleton Place 1930- Both photos from the Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

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Central Garage 1954 Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

In Carleton Place a blonde woman was in charge of a garage where she informed us that all the mechanics were out golfing-so we went on to another garage where our troubles were mended.

The road from Carleton Place to Ottawa was good so we tried to make up lost time. We had not gone one half mile out of the small town when we noticed we were being escorted. Our companion was a traffic cop who wanted to know if we were working for a telegraph company whose wires were down. I threw up my hands in frustration and we flew into the ditch and I was honestly sorry we were not all killed.

I paid $14 to get out of the ditch and wondered how much I was going to have to pay when his Worship decided how guilty I was when I appear before his Majesty in a few days. Right now I have decided to settle my personal affairs and preparing for a diet which our prison magistrates serve to perjurers, thieves and fire bugs.

My name is 118-133 Ottawa August 18, 1925

 

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The Tales of Carleton Place— Public Archives-Automobiles in Carleton Place–191 McLaren Street

 

 

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun and Screamin’ Mamas (USA)

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The Garages of Carleton Place –1970’s

Rolling Down Highway 15

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Broken concrete pavement on Hwy 15 near Smiths Falls. Photo taken in 1958. See an
(Photo courtesy of Ontario Ministry of Transportation  –  © Queen’s Printer for Ontario, 1958) The Kings Highway

 

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Did you know Carleton Place’s Albert W. Cram was a very busy man from early Spring to Fall around the Lanark area? He had most of the contracts for our road systems in the area. Cram was proud that he had ‘the complete outfit’ of up to date machinery and equipment.

 

From the Kings Highway

Highway 15 was first designated as a provincial highway in 1920, although its original route was quite a bit different than the route that we are familiar with today. Originally, Highway 15 ran from Seeleys Bay northeasterly towards Smiths Falls, where it turned northwesterly to Perth. At Perth, the highway resumed its northeasterly route towards Carleton Place and Ottawa. The highway was extended from Seeleys Bay southerly to Kingston in 1921.

The route of Highway 15 remained largely unchanged until the late 1950s, when extensive reconstruction took place on Highway 15 between Perth and Stittsville. This section of Highway 15 was selected to be a section of the Trans-Canada Highway, and it was determined that a new alignment would need to be built to bring the highway up to standard.

 

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Photo Linda Seccaspina

 

The original highway alignment via Ashton Station Road, Flewellyn Road, and Huntley Road was bypassed by a new straighter alignment in the late 1950s. A bypass was completed around Carleton Place in the late 1950s. The old alignment of Highway 15 through downtown became Highway 15B. In 1961, a major highway renumbering took place that saw Highway 43 extended westerly from Smiths Falls to Perth.

 

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Above – Outdated railway subway on Hwy 29 (later Hwy 15) in Smiths Falls in 1958. Narrow, low clearance railway subways such as this one were quite common on Ontario’s highways until the 1960s.(Photo courtesy of Ontario Ministry of Transportation  –  © Queen’s Printer for Ontario, 1958) The Kings Highway

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IN discussing Highway 15 farther down the reading list today Ted Hurdis mentioned the old road was behind the KIA on Highway 7 behind the MTO onHIghway 15— I went up to where the trailer place used to be and was not happily received.. trust me.. so I left and wandered around. MTO was closed so I went down on the next right after that.. and low and behold found what looks like a trail.. but I am sure it was the old highway 15.. as the road was cut off by a street and kept on going and you could see the rough paving in places and went off into the bush. It is definitely overgrown but I am sure this is it.. or used to beHighway 15

The section of Highway 15 from Perth to Carleton Place was renumbered as Highway 7, and Highway 15 was rerouted concurrently with Highway 29 between Smiths Falls and Carleton Place. The highway renumbering resulted in a reduction of Highway 15’s length to 173 km, but it did provide a more logical route for the highway. During the 1960s, the Ottawa Queensway was opened. Highway 15 was extended along the Queensway concurrently with Highway 7 from the Richmond Road Interchange to the Greenbank Road Interchange, where the highway ended at Highway 17. The concurrent route of Highway 7/15 between Carleton Place and Ottawa was discontinued in the early 1970s, when Highway 15 was truncated at Carleton Place. In the early 1980s, Highway 15 assumed the route of Highway 29 between Carleton Place and Arnprior.

 

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Above – Circa 1955 postcard view of Gore Street (Hwy 15, later Hwy 43) in Downtown Perth, facing north from the Tay River Bridge.
(Photo courtesy of L. F. Charter)– The Kings Highway

 

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Highway 15-where Richmond Road (old highway 7 and 15) crosses over

Vintage Smiths Falls & Perth Photo Perth-Wayfare Restaurant and B/A Service Station on highway #7. c1964

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Twin Oaks Motel Opens -1959 — Highway 7 Landmarks

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