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Norman Cram and Ed Sibbitt –The Rest of the Story — Lots of Genealogy

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Norman Cram and Ed Sibbitt –The Rest of the Story — Lots of Genealogy

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I love getting photos that folks have and try and tell their story. Thank you to all that do and please keep sending them in. We know now the rest of the story. Thanks Joyce Sibbitt for this photo–

 
I’m not a Cram…. but I came across this picture just the other day.. A picture of Ed Sibbitt (my grandfather)and Norm Cram
 

NORMAN CRAM

 
 
Norm was the brother of Albert Cram and born in either 1871. The name of Albert might sound familiar as he was once mayor of Carleton Place and they lived in my house Springside Hall ( Hi Diddle Day) on Lake Ave East. Norman worked with his brother in their woollen business they had on Campbell Street. In 1884 to make way for the building of a new flour mill the John F. Cram tannery and wool plant was removed to Campbell Street after fourteen years of operation on Mill Street. In 1886 the new tannery of John F. Cram and Donald Munroe was destroyed in a fire loss of over $10,000.
 
 

 

Albert E. Cram – 1867/1929

Mayor of Carleton Place – 1909 & 1910 – Wool Dealer – Manufacturer

 

An automobile accident in July of 1912  was responsible for the death of one of the best known phyelctana In the Ottawa Valley—Dr. Daniel Muirhead. of Carleton Place. He was out driving on the North Gower road in company with Mr. Norman Cram, of Carleton Place, and was proceeding at a fair speed, when one of the wheels, caught in a rut in the road throwing the steering gear out of order. 

The machine swerved and overturned into the ditch crushing Dr. Muirhead under the weight. Fortunately for Mr. Cram he jumped from the car or undoubtedly he would have met with the same fate. Dr. Muirhead was terribly injured and expired within thirty minutes before medical aid arrived. 

Mr. Cram, who is well-known woollen manufacturer with his brother Albert had been touring the Kemptville district during the day purchasing wool, and they were on their homeward journey when the fatality occurred. The scene of the accident is on a side road just west of John Geddes corner, where the road is in a very bad state. At one point they had to enlist the help of a farmer to move the automobile out of a hole. 

The deceased friends were immediately acquainted with the sad news, and Coroner Dr. Danby of Richmond subsequently viewed the body. Dr. Muirhead was fifty years of age. and unmarried, but his brother Mr. W. J. Muirhead, a hardware merchant of Carleton Place, survives. Mr. Cram is a brother of ex-Mayor Albert Cram of Carleton Place.

Norman was a bit of a dandy and there were a few notations like this one below. This was on the front page of the Ottawa Citizen September 21, 1921:

Norman Cram, of Carleton Place, who is charged by P.C. George Finlay with driving an auto, while intoxicated, upon a public highway, was remanded until Monday, bail being allowed at $50 cash. ($718.46 in 2020)

Norman Cram died on the 18th of March 1930 in Ottawa.

Norman McLeod Cram, son of the late John F and Margaret Cram and brother of the late Albert Edward Cram of Carleton Place died Tuesday morning at an Ottawa hospital after only a short illness. Mr. Cram was born in Carleton Place in 1871 and his whole life was spent there. Upon the death of his father he entered the firm of J. F. Cram and son of which he was the head of at the time of his death. March 21, 1930 Almonte Gazette

 

Did you know Angeline Cram, daughter of Albert and niece of Norman Cram’s first name was Norma, named after her uncle Norman Cram?

 

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It is quite possible Norman is in the middle here. Waiting at the Carleton Place Depot- Photo-Rod Anste.

The Short but Illustrious Life of Dr. Daniel Muirhead

 

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Morphy Cram House

 

Charles Edgar Sibbitt

 

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Photo–Vintage Carleton Place & Beckwith This clipping is from a school scribbler that was kept by Louella Edith Drynan (nee Shail). THEN

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NOW- Bridge and High Street

Years ago Mayor Eldon Henderson received this photo (news clipping) from the Victoria Archives in British Columbia that had been in their files for many years. As it was a Carleton Place, Ontario photo the archives felt it should be in our local photo collection.

He was confused at first, but after finding out where the store had been located Mayor Henderson began a contest for the general public. The winning location answer received a free one year subscription to The Review. Do you know where it was in Carleton Place? It was on the corner of High and Bridge Street where Mr. Campbell once had his store. I have sat here examining the buildings to the side and amazed how this building transpired over the years today. Who would have known? How did the photo end up in British Columbia? Keep reading…

From Joyce Sibbitt--Some interesting history for sure. A few corrections. Ed Sibbitt was Charles Edgar (not Edward)  I know my dad Louis Edgar Sibbitt was born in Winnipeg Manitoba Feb 1906. Some further info from my sister, Evelyn, on the reasons that picture may have ended up in the BC archives— I can only think that it had something to do with them being first in Minnesota, then in Winnipeg. I don’t think that they ever went further west, though Nanny (Eva Rose neé Davis Sibbitt) did have a brother, Frank who was stationed in Victoria, before he left to seek his fortune in the Canadian Yukon, then NWT gold rush, before dying in Vancouver (not sure of the date of his death off the top of my head). It is possible that the clippings were sent to him, and thence to the BC archives… Eva Davis Sibbitt was Charles Edgar Sibbitt’s wife.

And this is why the above photo from the Victoria Archives in British Columbia that had been in their files for many years ended up there. Charles Edgar Sibbitt moved West and that is where his memories ended up, and that is why the Victoria Archives in British Columbia had the photo.

 

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Eva Davis Sibbitt was Charles Edgar Sibbitt’s wife. Here she is 16 years of age 1896- Photo Joyce Sibbitt

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
25 Jul 1968, Thu  •  Page 40

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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
07 Jan 1944, Fri  •  Page 2

 

 

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How Did A Carleton Place Photo End Up at the Victoria Archives?

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Robberies in Carleton Place — Mr. Ed Campbell of High Street

*Bill Jenkins- Riverman and Wedding Cake Maker?

*Before and After in Carleton Place–Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum Posting

 

CRAMS

Dr.Cram and Dr. Scott Drowning 1907 –Cram Genealogy

They Once Lived in My Home– The Cram Children — Margaret — Angeline “Babe” and Arthur

They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

The Morphy Cram House — Springside Hall

More “Clippings” on the Local Crams

The Rosamond Christmas Party 1863-or- When Billie Brown and I Slid Down Old Cram’s Cellar Door

After I Read an Obit About Mrs. William Cram I also Found Out

So What Really Happened to Samuel Cram?

Donald Cram — Nobel Prize for Chemistry

Searching for Elizabeth Cram–Updates on Andrew Waugh

Searching for Joey Cram of Carleton Place

I Now have Part of Joey Cram

Peter Cram of Beckwith Perth and High Street in Carleton Place

Genealogy Chatter- Willard and Margaret E Simpson Cram

 
 
 
 
Cram’s Tannery was located at Sussex and Campbell Streets, and owned by Albert E. Cram, who lived at 77 Lake Avenue East. This quote is from the “Do You Remember When?” newspaper column, written in February 1953 by Leo McDiarmid (he wrote under the pen name “S.C. Ribe”):
“Joe Schwerdtfeger, Pete Lever, Steve Jones and Billy Garland, who were employed at Cram’s Tannery, could whisk the wool off a sheep pelt while you were saying ‘Jack Robinson’. The pelts were put into a curing vat, the wool baled up and shipped, a lot of it to the United States.” Carleton Place and Beckwth Heritage Museum

How Did A Carleton Place Photo End Up at the Victoria Archives?

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How Did A Carleton Place Photo End Up at the Victoria Archives?

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Photo–Vintage Carleton Place & Beckwith This clipping is from a school scribbler that was kept by Louella Edith Drynan (nee Shail).-

 

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

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Mrs. Alex Sibbitt- The back says Mrs. Alex Sibbitt. I believe that this must be a picture of Mary Morphy– Joyce Sibbitt Photo

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Bridge and High Street 1875 before the grocery store re-model (corner white frame house)–3230883 Public Archives.Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Years ago Mayor Eldon Henderson received this photo (news clipping) from the Victoria Archives in British Columbia that had been in their files for many years. As it was a Carleton Place, Ontario photo the archives felt it should be in our local photo collection.

He was confused at first, but after finding out where the store had been located Mayor Henderson began a contest for the general public. The winning location answer received a free one year subscription to The Review. Do you know where it was in Carleton Place? It was on the corner of High and Bridge Street where Mr. Campbell once had his store. I have sat here examining the buildings to the side and amazed how this building transpired over the years today. Who would have known? How did the photo end up in British Columbia? Keep reading…

Marj Whyte wrote:

Across High Street was a brick building once known as The Sibbett’s Summit Store (Sibbet’s Grocery & Liquor Store–Lloyd Hughes). Later it was ran by Lorne J. Campbell and then D.A. Roe became the owner and it was also Baird’s Food.

Photos below by Shane Wm. Edwards– thank you for all the photos you take so we can put these mysteries together,

 

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All photos- Shane Wm. Edwards after all the bricks were removed.

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All photos- Shane Wm. Edwards

 

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Still has the log ceiling beams–2017

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

Food Costs– The Herald– – May 1884.

The Summit Store is the Spot.  Your choice for #1.00: 6 cans Salmon, 6 cans Lobster, 8 boxes Sardines, 11 lbs Prunes, 12 lbs. new Valencia Raisins, 13 lbs. Bright Sugar, 4 lbs. choice Japan Tea.  Five dozen Labrador Herring for $1.00, or $3.00 per half barrel.  Also Fresh Halibut, Mess Pork, Fresh Herring, Tommy-Cods, etc.  Early Rose Potatoes.  Green Apples – Glassware and Crockery, Boots and Shoes. –Howard Morton Brown

 

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  20 Jan 1903, Tue,  Page 5

 

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Ed Sibbitt- Photo Joyce Sibbitt

 

Barely one year later Edward left town…

Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  18 Dec 1903, Fri,  Page 4

And this is why the above photo from the Victoria Archives in British Columbia that had been in their files for many years ended up there. Edgar Sibbett moved West and that is where his memories ended up.

 

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Doug B. McCarten— This building was across from our house and when I was growing up it belonged to Ellard (sp?)and Beulla (sp?) Gordon who ran her beauty parlour in the front! They raised two boys Dale and Jimmy who married Judy Houston and Robert who was my boyhood friend! They had a TV 📺 before we did and I can remember going over to watch!

Robert and I decided to move the Neilsons Ice Cream sign from the front of the dairy (it was on legs with feet) to the middle of Bridge Street one Halloween 👻 and then hid in his Mom’s beauty parlour to see what happened! The police came by and moved it back to the dairy! This was fun so we did it a number of times until the Police 👮arrived at the sign at the same time as my father coming the other way.

My dad stopped and had a discussion with the officer no doubt inquiring if they had seen me…… It was probably 3 or 4 a.m. and seeing my dad with the cop I made the prudent decision to sneak home, get in bed and pretend I had been there the whole time! I snuck in the back door, tiptoed across the kitchen and was just starting my quiet climb when I looked up and there was my mom at top of the stairs waiting for me…… I don’t remember the punishment but they never did find out about our participation in the sign scandal! I remember how funny we thought it was at the time and we laughed so hard my sides ached…… What great fun we had growing up!!

Corry Turner-Perkins– Ellard and Buella were my neighbours on Towline Rd in their later years and they were both beautiful people.I was just a teenager and “Mr.G” as I called him and I would talk for hours over the fence or in the driveway.I still have a small broach he brought me back when him and Buella went to Graceland. Buella would wave me over and send me home with treats or fresh picked rhubarb.! If I recall correctly they were married for 70 years!
Kenneth Jackson yes i remember when Bulah had the salon . it was around this time that i helped to renovate the building into apartments.
Joann Voyce I vaguely remember shopping in there with my mother when we first moved to High St 1948. Who remembers the fire in the second floor of the building right beside Gordon’s? When you look at it now with one story and a flat roof, people must wonder why it looks like it doesn’t fit in with the rest of the street

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Clipped from The Ottawa Journal,  03 Sep 1897, Fri,  Page 8

Perth Courier, May 19, 1899

Lewis Sibbett, second son of Alexander Sibbett, Carleton Place, died at Evaleth(?), Minn., on May 12(?) 13(?), aged 28.  The complaint was an abscess of the abdominal cavity.  The body was brought to Carleton Place and interred in the Cram Cemetery, Rev. A.A. Scott of Zion Church, conducted the services.  His wife was a Miss Whitton.

 

Need Apricots in Carleton Place? –1899

Full text of “Evaporated fruit and vegetables [microform]” 1899

 

*70550 Wm. Jenkins, Carleton Place.

70560 Alex. Sibbett, Carleton Place-Sibbitt Alexander, grocer

Wines and Liquors—Sibbett Grocers Carleton Place

 

 

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Dale Gordon and his Great Uncle Jack Howard, taken on Bridge Street in front of the store in 1955 or 1956. Dale writes: “My parents moved from Sudbury in Dec of 1947 to help my great Uncle Jack Howard operate the store ,He apparently ran the store with his wife who had passed away . I notice on the building it is called the Howard Block so it may be that he owned the building and someone else ran the store My parents ran the store and my mother opened her hair salon in part of it .My great Uncle passed away in the late 50,s and my mother moved her salon to the small unit just to the north of the store .you can see the entrance door and window in the picture. The store was operated as an antique store by Charlie Rintoul..I remember hanging out in it as a kid .

I think it was around 1960 my parents renovated the building into the 8 unit apartment building . We lived in one of the apartments and my mother ran her salon in the portion at the front .I believe in 1966 my parents sold the building and moved to the town line
Hope all this helps
Dale–Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

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 Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

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Lorne J. Campbell owned the business when this ad was printed in 1936. Note the reference to the “Howard Block” as well as the different street address. Building numbers have changed several times over the years

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

 

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Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun andScreamin’ Mamas (USA)

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

 

relatedreading

 

 

Robberies in Carleton Place — Mr. Ed Campbell of High Street

*Bill Jenkins- Riverman and Wedding Cake Maker?

*Before and After in Carleton Place–Carleton Place and Beckwith Heritage Museum Posting

 

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I have been writing about downtown Carleton Place Bridge Street for months and this is something I really want to do. Come join me in the Domino’s Parking lot- corner Lake Ave and Bridge, Carleton Place at 11 am Saturday September 16 (rain date September 17) for a free walkabout of Bridge Street. It’s history is way more than just stores. This walkabout is FREE BUT I will be carrying a pouch for donations to the Carleton Place Hospital as they have been so good to me. I don’t know if I will ever do another walking tour so come join me on something that has been on my bucket list since I began writing about Bridge Street. It’s always a good time–trust me.

Are You Ready to Visit the Open Doors?

 

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