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Do You Care About Our Local Water? Very Important… Please Share

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Do You Care About Our Local Water? Very Important… Please Share

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This is an email I got from a concerned citizen and please take the time to read Jim McCready’s letter he wrote the council about this issue below. 100 year floods are no longer 100 year floods.

Please share this.

 

Dear Linda,

As you are aware final approval for the Bodner subdivision is on this week’s agenda.  In a last ditch effort I am in hopes that our Carleton Place residents will contact our  members of council in an attempt they reconsider their vote.

As a concerned citizen of Carleton Place please read below to ensure you understand the impact of what will happen if the Bodnar subdivision / Roy Brown Park reaches final approval at the council meeting this Tuesday February 13th.

If you have concerns as to why council has approved the storm water pond to be located in Roy Brown Park please make your thoughts/views and queries known to your elected representatives via personal email, as well please share this post. There is still time for this to  be reversed. It is very easy to see the direct benefits to the developer but not to our community.

Why is  the  developer’s storm water pond if approved to reside on our public property (Roy Brown Park)? Why are we willing to give away our parkland? Allowing the storm water pond to be housed on town owned property combined with the no green space / park land  agreement between the town and developer allows the developer to maintain an additional 6 acres of property to use to his advantage/benefit. The most important issue is who and how will the health and safety of our drinking water be protected ? Who and how will guarantee the preservation of this town’s most valuable asset our riverfront?

Let’s not just do what we can here, let’s do what we must to maintain a safe, healthy and happy community.

Thank you.

 

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Again, If you have concerns as to why council has approved the storm water pond to be located in Roy Brown Park please make your thoughts/views and queries known to your elected representatives via personal email, as well please share this post. There is still time for this to  be reversed. It is very easy to see the direct benefits to the developer but not to our community.

CONTACT INFORMATION

Mayor: Louis Antonakos

Deputy Mayor: Jerry Flynn

Councillor: Doug Black

Councillor: Brian Doucett

Councillor: Theresa Fritz

Councillor: Sean Redmond

Councillor: Ross Trimble

 

Jim McCready R.P.F. June 20, 2016

 

To: Town Council

 

Subject: Development Permit Application Sub4-01-2016 (Bodnar Lands)

 

The Carleton Place Urban Forest /River Corridor Advisory Committee has reviewed the above Application and as a Committee of Council have the following comments.

 

It has always been understood that enhanced storm water management ponds must be installed when development of the Bodnar properties was undertaken to protect the town’s water supply and the intake down stream from these sites. It is imperative to protect the town’s water supply now and for generations to come.

 

The current Conceptual Proposal to Council has the Storm Water Management Pond (SWMP) extremely close to the river, which the committee is recommending rejecting for the following reasons:

 

1.    The original Conceptual Plan for Roy Brown Park put forth by MVCA and the Town had the storm water management pond well back from the river and on the developer’s property, which the committee supported at that time in 2014 and still does today.  Map 1 with the addition of the proposed SWMP in red

 

2.    As it stands now the SWMP would be in or very close to IPZ9 and would be governed by the prescribed instrument as follows.” Storm Water Management Planning and Design Manual MOE 2003. In IPZ 9 to8, the risks posed by storm water management facilities are to be managed through the Environmental Compliance Approval process under the Ontario Water Resources Act.” Municipal public works staff consulted as part of the policy development favoured including the recommendation that future storm water management facilities be built to Enhance Level Protection Standards. As stated by the committee Enhanced Standards would include well back from the river.

 

3.    The present location on the conceptual plan leaves very little room to adjust to a catastrophic failure affecting the Town’s drinking water. As part of an enhanced SWMP a location further back in the park laid out in the original plan for Roy Brown Park with an outlet through the wetland, as a buffer, would give greater protection to the town’s water supply. Map 1

 

4.    The flood plan line is extremely close to where the proposed SWMP is to go. This is extremely close if a catastrophe were to happen or if guidelines were to change in the future due to climate change or other factors such as extreme storms such as we have been experiencing in the last number of years. Map 1 & Map2

 

 

 

 

5.    The committee is of the opinion that it is premature to propose one large SWMP for all possible development in and/ or adjacent to Roy Brown Park when no such plans have been prepared and storm water needs have not been determined. The committee suggests pursuing the idea of two separate SWMP options: One for the residential developer on their land as previously laid out; one for the commercial property yet to be decided; and possibly  one on public lands depending on how the property is developed. This will give you options if one SWMP should fail.

 

6.    We have not had good experiences with SWMP close to the River. The Mississippi Quays SWMP is a case in point. We should not be putting the town’s drinking water in jeopardy in such situations.

 

 

We are prepared to discuss this with you at your convenience.

 

 Jim McCready R.P.F.

Chair

 

Related Reading…

Developer should build storm water management pond on own land-Rob Probert

Carleton Place? What if You or I did This?

Is it Just Me? Where are the Words “Drinking Water”? – Opinion

This week in—Really Carleton Place? Really?

Oingo Boingo! Bobolink Birds Bothered- Concerns-Carleton Place Citizens #2

It’s Your Decision– Roy Brown Park

Cisterns I Have Known

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Cisterns I Have Known

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Photo of the once cistern of Springside Hall by Linda Seccaspina-Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Earl Monro from Almonte once said:  “Half a century ago there was no pasteurized or homogenized milk, no waterworks in town, except some private systems operated from their own wells or cisterns, no television, no ploughed road for automobiles, no snow tires, no school buses, no gas or electrically heated homes. However, in the humble opinion of the writer, the majority of the people were happier and more contented than they are now, even with all the comforts and luxuries of this fast moving day and age”.

After the fire in 1995 our whole basement had to be gutted and we noticed that there was a two inch open gap at the ceiling level on the far side of the wall and open space behind it. Ange and his father removed the stone wall, and low and behold there was a small room. The walls were also 3 ft thick and we figure it was once a root cellar. The dead space now joined part of the house as an official room. It became a wine cellar – but it has not been used in a decade. We found out later that it was a former cistern.

 

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Most older homes have them hidden away somewhere- and what they actually were were “subterranean” reservoirs built to store rainwater. Some people had cisterns outside their homes, and then there were those under trap doors. Before the fire there was a trap door in our living room which was right over the cistern- but I had no idea what it was then. After the fire of course the floor was redone– and now I regret I did not tell the restoration company to put another one in.

There are stories that some fathers brought home live fish and dumped them in the cisterns. Those fish grew and multiplied and a cistern full of fish had to be great pride in a small town- “but I am wondering how fresh that water tasted “.( please note that this is just a humorous comment:). Stories were told not to fool around with the trap door and sometimes tragedy happened in cisterns as noted below. There were stories of a local big brother falling in the  cistern and so disliked were they by their younger brothers that  flat irons were put on top of the trap doors to make sure they didn’t come out. I know some should have thought about the fact that it had been a dry summer  that year the brother was locked in there —and there was only 3 feet of water in that thing. Heck would reign once the older brother got out.

Spring used to be a time when you got the ladders up high and cleaned the gutters and then put the ladders down low and cleaned the cisterns. Having the biggest and deepest cistern  in town with barrels full of rainwater from the roof of the house for housework was nothing prestige. It not only provided water with a few strokes of a sink pump, but the water was also very soft for all the housewives needs.

If a cistern was beyond the financial ability of the household, a rain barrel at the eavestrough  of the house was a must. When the rain barrel and the cistern fell out of mode- that was when the soaps and water softeners came into play with the hard water that came from the taps. Some said they missed hearing the water dripping into the cistern after a rainfall and the girls never waited for rain anymore as there was always water in the cistern.

 

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January 2 1880 Almonte Gazette

On Sunday last Miss Sarah Green, daughter of Mr. Samuel Green, of Landsdowne, who lives three miles from the station, was drowned in the cistern in her father’s house. The parents had gone to church and did not return until after the accident occurred.

The only member of the family about the house besides Miss Green was her brother and he was engaged looking after horses for a short time previous. This work he finished at 2 p.m and started for a neighbour’s house, but had to pass his father’s in order to reach it. As he passed be saw his sister standing at an upper window looking out They exchanged words and he went on.

When the parents reached home they found the door of the cistern open and at once shut it. The mother supposing Sarah to be upstairs called her a number of times and receiving no answer, began a search for her. It was not until the house had been thoroughly searched that she thought of the cistern. On looking into it they discovered Sarah lying on her face quite dead. The supposition is that she had let go the rope attached to the pail, with which the water was usually taken up, and in reaching for it- lost her balance and fell in. As there was a braise on her head, there is no doubt but she fell heavily against the bottom of the cistern, which contained only two feet of water, and being rendered insensible by the fall, was unable to help herself and drowned without a motion. Miss Green was an estimable lady twenty-three years of age.

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Sandy Iwaniw–
The first house we owned in Carleton Place had a cistern in the basement. I had never seen a cistern in the basement before as the ones we had in south western Ontario were usually outside the basement but very close to the house so they could collect rainwater.
Rose ParsonsWe had one on the farm and used it all of the time. We also had a pump on the wash stand for getting the water from it to the basin for washing. Thanks for the memories!!
Arlee Barr–ours is walled up–we’ve often wondered if there are any bodies in it!
Alice GilchristI grew up in a farmhouse in Dalhousie Twp and our cistern was in the basement and was cement with walls about one foot thick with just enough space for a man to crawl in for cleaning. It was connected to a hand pump in the kitchen so there was “soft” water readily available for washing and cleaning or to put in the reservoir in the wood stove to heat. Our drinking water had to be hand carried from the outside well. The cistern was still in use when the farm was sold in 1976.

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read.

Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in Hometown News and now in The Townships Sun

Do You have an Archaeological Find in Your Carleton Place Basement?

Do You have a Hidden Room in Your Home?

“The Tim Horton’s River” Under my House.. Is That the Way To Fraggle Rock?

Is it Just Me? Where are the Words “Drinking Water”? – Opinion

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As you know the Storm Water Management Pond in Roy Brown Park was turned down June 28 with only two voting Yay. The Storm Water Management Pond will now be built on the developer’s property.

In this week’s Carleton Place -Almonte Gazette there was a write up of the June 28th’s proceedings.

“Carleton Place council votes against shared storm water management pond in Roy Brown Park”

I had a few people email me to share their opinion wondering if the article possibly sounded one-sided. Everyone in my world can voice their opinion- that is how the world turns in my life, and our local paper opinion’s are noted and appreciated. But, personally, I feel the black and white words “drinking water” were sadly omitted throughout the whole article. Contaminated drinking water was the main concern of the opposing side.

To be fair, there was one lone paragraph in the newspaper article that said:

“Their main concern was the pond’s closeness to the Mississippi River and the town’s water intake”.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but people really have to think hard after that sentence to make the connection to the words “drinking water”. Maybe I am right out to lunch with this one, but to be fair, I did ask a dozen people what they thought about it.

However, the vote was in- the pond is not going in-for now– but I am going to put Jim McCready R.P.F., the Chair of the Carleton Place Urban Forest/River Corridor Advisory Committee’s opinions below to remind everyone why that pond should never go in. To quote a wise man on carletonplace.com:

“It seems no matter how good we can have this grain of life on this rock we call a planet we do everything in our power to screw it up, destroy it or keep it to ourselves”.

Thank you to all who voted to keep this pond out of Roy Brown Park.

 

Comments-

I think CP’ers do equate water intake with drinking water but also that most would have dismissed any development news as just one more development and left it at that. This scenario flew under the radar … and maybe we need shoutier  (Sara Palinism?) words from Town council. Chance-Carletonplace.com

 

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Carleton Place

Urban Forest / River Corridor

Advisory Committee

175 Bridge Street
Carleton Place
Ontario  K7C 2V8
tel      1-613-257-6202
fax     1-613-257-8170
email  jdmccready@bell.net

 

June 20, 2016

 

To: Town Council

 

Subject: Development Permit Application Sub4-01-2016 (Bodnar Lands)

 

The Carleton Place Urban Forest /River Corridor Advisory Committee has reviewed the above Application and as a Committee of Council have the following comments.

 

It has always been understood that enhanced storm water management ponds must be installed when development of the Bodnar properties was undertaken to protect the town’s water supply and the intake down stream from these sites. It is imperative to protect the town’s water supply now and for generations to come.

 

The current Conceptual Proposal to Council has the Storm Water Management Pond (SWMP) extremely close to the river, which the committee is recommending rejecting for the following reasons:

 

1.    The original Conceptual Plan for Roy Brown Park put forth by MVCA and the Town had the storm water management pond well back from the river and on the developer’s property, which the committee supported at that time in 2014 and still does today.  Map 1 with the addition of the proposed SWMP in red

 

2.    As it stands now the SWMP would be in or very close to IPZ9 and would be governed by the prescribed instrument as follows.” Storm Water Management Planning and Design Manual MOE 2003. In IPZ 9 to8, the risks posed by storm water management facilities are to be managed through the Environmental Compliance Approval process under the Ontario Water Resources Act.” Municipal public works staff consulted as part of the policy development favoured including the recommendation that future storm water management facilities be built to Enhance Level Protection Standards. As stated by the committee Enhanced Standards would include well back from the river.

 

3.    The present location on the conceptual plan leaves very little room to adjust to a catastrophic failure affecting the Town’s drinking water. As part of an enhanced SWMP a location further back in the park laid out in the original plan for Roy Brown Park with an outlet through the wetland, as a buffer, would give greater protection to the town’s water supply. Map 1

 

4.    The flood plan line is extremely close to where the proposed SWMP is to go. This is extremely close if a catastrophe were to happen or if guidelines were to change in the future due to climate change or other factors such as extreme storms such as we have been experiencing in the last number of years. Map 1 & Map2

 

 

 

 

5.    The committee is of the opinion that it is premature to propose one large SWMP for all possible development in and/ or adjacent to Roy Brown Park when no such plans have been prepared and storm water needs have not been determined. The committee suggests pursuing the idea of two separate SWMP options: One for the residential developer on their land as previously laid out; one for the commercial property yet to be decided; and possibly  one on public lands depending on how the property is developed. This will give you options if one SWMP should fail.

 

6.    We have not had good experiences with SWMP close to the River. The Mississippi Quays SWMP is a case in point. We should not be putting the town’s drinking water in jeopardy in such situations.

 

 

We are prepared to discuss this with you at your convenience.

 

 Jim McCready R.P.F.

Chair

Carleton Place Urban Forest/River Corridor Advisory Committee.