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The Beer Bottle Time Capsule on Emily Street?

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The Beer Bottle Time Capsule on Emily Street?
Photo Adin Wesley Daigle

Hey Linda, hope all is well we found this beer bottle in the wall upstairs while renovations commence here at the Daigle house. I thought maybe someone would recognize the names on it .

It says “Crammy” “Snidley” and “Emmat”

Anyone know???

Date of the bottle?

This is a longneck bottle so after 1983….

When Canadian breweries made the switch from stubby to longneck in 1983, each company had its own distinctive bottle. The decision to switch was made for marketing reasons. Sales were flat, and the major brewers thought a new bottle shape could give sales the boost they needed.

Molson shelled out a whopping $18 million to convert its bottling machines.

Reaction to the longneck was mixed. Some beer drinkers liked the new bottle for its style and feel. Others, however, resisted the Americanization of the beer bottle and lamented the loss of the little stubby.

In a Food in Canada article titled “Bring back the stubby!” writer David Menzies reveals that the stubby was almost resurrected in 1992 when Canadian brewing companies met to re-set the standard dimensions of the longneck. The stubby was passed over, however, when focus groups showed that women preferred the longneck to the stubby.

this logo dates back to at least as early as 1861. Molson had several brands that used this crown & anchor device before 1900. And a crown & anchor design that is pretty much the same still appears on our Stock Ale brand today. Which doesn’t really answer the question about the bottle opener, since this design has been around for quite a long time

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

The Big Beer Store Heist in Carleton Place

Who Stole The Beer Sign in Almonte?

What was Written on the Note in the Bottle?

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What was Written on the Note in the Bottle?

Hi Linda
   When they got the time capsule from the CP high school there was a bottle in it with a paper inside, what was written on the paper?
Thanks
Jim Houston

Does anyone know?

Peter Bradley— Photo–CPHS taken from the top of the water tower when the “new” addition was being built in the early sixties

Everyone thought Bruce Wilson had gone a bit crazy when he demanded the cornerstone of his high school be removed because he was convinced a time capsule was behind it. In November of 1998 they changed their minds. Two stonemasons clambered up scaffolding at the edge of Carleton Place High School and chipped out the stone inscribed with the date the school was built and the name of the chairman of the board on opening day 75 years ago.Nestled behind it was a cement-covered dry gin bottle, uncorked and empty with the exception of a tightly rolled, lined sheet of paper. The note, the newspapers and another note, which was tucked into a gin bottle – accompanying the capsule, were all so dry and tightly folded that they could not be fully read. And tucked behind it sat a sealed copper box, envelope-sized in length. “I was pretty happy to see they had found them,” said Mr. Wilson, a Grade 12 student. “Everyone had thought I was kind of crazy.” November 1998-The Time Capsule of CPHS

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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
01 Dec 1998, Tue  •  Page 37

The Time Capsule of CPHS

  1. A Time Capsule on the Malloch Farm
  2. Should we Really Keep Time in a Bottle or a Box? 
  3. Unwrapping 164 Bridge Street in Carleton Place
  4. Time Capsule in the ‘Hi Diddle Day’ House?
  5. Update on the Time Capsule in Springside Hall

About the photo above

Donna Mcfarlane 1961 graduation ceremony was delayed until march 16 1962 until the addition was completed

Peter Bradley 1960, The last time I climbed up the tower before moving to England. The teachers were Miss Mullett, Miss Powell, Mr Lawn, Mr Thompson, Mr Lighthart, Mr Ross and Mr Palmateer. and I missed Miss Sinclair. (Go to the bottom of the class)

Gail Grabe Peter Bradley Don’t forget Miss Sinclair!

Peter Bradley Gail Grabe Oh how could I Scuddy Sinclair and Latin and Ancient History. I still have the text books! Amo amas amat, Do, dara, ditty, datum!

Gail Grabe As I recall, history class was a guess as to which paragraph you would have to memorize in order to stand and recite verbatim as she went down each row. Occasionally she started with a different row…yikes!

Sandra Mailey Grade 13 departmental exams in June 1961, were written in Memorial Church Hall to spare us the distraction of the construction noise.

Sandra Mailey Our class graduation was the first to take place in the new auditorium …October 1961.

Linda Gallipeau-Johnston 1960 – first year of high school and the addition was going in. The biggest thing I remember is that stairs were still on the front of the school – that’s where we stood to get sorted out into grades!

David Flint the ‘vinyl village’ was just a field back then ….awesome pic

Not Hogwarth’s —- It’s Hoggards of Ottawa! Besserer Street History

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Not Hogwarth’s —- It’s  Hoggards of Ottawa! Besserer Street History




Bottle from Adin Wesley Daigle

George Hoggard manufactured carbonated water called deep rock Lithia water, and also produced ginger ale and cream soda. Instead of having a cork for a stopper, it had inside its neck a glass ball much like a marble. Pressure of the liquid forced the ball up into the mouth of the bottle, where it acted like a stopper. His brother William patented it in the late 1800s/

patent list for Wiliam Hoggard Ottawa for his stopper invention

So what was Lithia water?  It’s defined as a type of mineral water characterised by the presence of lithium salts (as lithium carbonate or lithium chloride). Natural lithia mineral spring waters are rare, and there are few commercially bottled lithia water products.

Between the 1880s and World War I, the consumption of bottled lithia mineral water was popular and during this era, there was such a demand for lithia water that there was a proliferation of bottled lithia water products. However, only a few were natural lithia spring waters. Most of the bottled lithia water brands added lithium bicarbonate to spring water and called it lithia water.

With the start of World War I and the formation of the new US government food safety agency, mineral water bottlers were under scrutiny. The new agency posted large fines against mineral water bottlers for mislabelled, misrepresented and adulterated products. These government actions and their publicity, along with public works that made clean tap water readily accessible, caused the American public to lose confidence and interest in bottled mineral water.

Lithia water contains various lithium salts, including the citrate. An early version of Coca-Cola available in pharmacies’ soda fountains called Lithia Coke was a mixture of Coca-Cola syrup and Bowden lithia spring water. The soft drink 7Up was named “Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda” when it was formulated in 1929 because it contained lithium citrate. The beverage was a patent medicine marketed as a cure for hangover. Lithium citrate was removed from 7Up in 1948.

Physicians used to hail lithium water as a healer’s delight. A Congress of Physicians at Lithia Springs in 1887 produced a report recommending the water to treat, among other conditions, kidney stones, jaundice, rheumatism, headaches, typhoid fever, indigestion, eczema, dropsy and “diseases of delicate women.”

Hoggard’s Fire

On June 29 of 1897  three horses were burned at a fire in the stable of Mr. Geo. Hoggard on Besserer street, about 5 o’clock yesterday afternoon. The horses were valued at about $200. Mrs. T. Martin also lost 5O sacks of salt, a cutter, 4 single sleighs and a large double sleigh. Mr. Hoggard had $1200 of insurance and Mrs. Martin had none.

Mrs. Patterson also had a quantity of wood which was stored in one of the sheds. The fire originated at the corner of Mr. Hoggard’s stable. Some children are supposed to have been playing with matches or smoking in the loft of the stable. The building was in flames when the alarm was given. Lines of hose were laid by the men from stations 3, 4. 5 and 8 and did excellent work. The blaze was soon under control and by 5.20 the fire was out. The sheds and buildings that are burned were only cheap structures and the loss upon them will he very slight. About $600 will cover the loss.

There was a lack of police there at the beginning of the fire. The Buffalo Bill show had taken several of the members of the force. It was not long however before the crowd which had hampered the firemen were forced back. It is thought the fire began in the stable where the horses were and the animals became smothered and fell to the floor and as a consequence could not be removed. The fire was in among a lot of dry frame buildings and might have resulted much more seriously. It was caught at the right time. Alarms were sent in from three different boxes and this brought out all the reels of the city.

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
22 Apr 1905, Sat  •  Page 10

A. Huckels & Co. -The Story of a Bottle- Thanks to Jaan Kolk

nteresting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

Where Were the Miracle Salt Springs in Pakenham? I Love a Challenge!

Social Note Shenanigans from the Almonte Gazette June 1899

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

“One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer” in Lanark County

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

A. Huckels & Co. -The Story of a Bottle- Thanks to Jaan Kolk

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A. Huckels & Co. -The Story of a Bottle-  Thanks to Jaan Kolk

Linda, I thank you for all your research into your local soda water bottlers.

You have a great future treasure in your town. Adin Daigle is a very keen collector of Carleton Place and area history. You also are lucky to have Scott Wallace. Please involve Adin in research projects and mentor him in research. One day this will pay off in preserving the local history for generations to come.

I have a challenge for you. I have two bottles from A. Huckels & Co. from Ottawa. I cannot find information them. He has a flag for a logo. No one has been able to tell me the significance of the flag. Perhaps you can unlock this secret?

I hope you join our hobby, it holds lots of history and we have some passionate collectors like Adin and Scott. You would be very welcomed.–Glen William Gordon–

Linda says: We are on this Glen– with my Ottawa historian friend Jaan Kolk

Photos of bottles by Glen William Gordon-

Jaan Kolk

Jaan Kolk—In 1901, A Huckels and Co. was at 326-328 Queen street, with about 8 employees. By 1909, Huckels and his company had moved to nearby 181-185 Lyon Street.


Jaan Kolk
 This is pure speculation, but given that the flagship ( 😉 ) product was “German Seltzer”, the flag in the trademark may have represented the National and merchant flag of the German Empire, 1871-1918, which was three stripes: black, white, red. From the 1901 city directory:

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Jaan Kolk—The company was established in Ottawa in 1894. Here is an ad from the Citizen, June 29, 1894

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Jaan Kolk A note from the Citizen, Sept. 27, 1895 on the display at the Exhibition

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Jaan Kolk–In 1912, The A. Huckels operation was taken over to become the Ottawa branch of major beverage producer J.J. McLaughlin Ltd. (of Canada Dry Ginger Ale fame), retaining the same 1082 phone number. From the Citizen, Mar. 29, 1912

Jaan Kolk—I could not find much mention of Alexander himself in the papers, except for this incident you might find amusing, Linda: Alexander was assaulted by Johnny “Dixie” McDowall, “America’s oldest newsboy.” From the Citizen, Aug. 25, 1910

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Linda says:

Linda Seccaspina

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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ottawa Daily Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
07 Aug 1894, Tue  •  Page 7

According to a research book the A. Huckels & Co. were one of Ottawa’s larger bottlers and operated from 1894-1911 and then seem to disappear. Their bottles were also smaller from the typical soda water bottle possibly 6 ounces or 7.5 ounces in size. The Huckel family was well known in the Ottawa area and when I get a chance I will write about Benjamin and the tragedies he went through.

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
17 Jan 1900, Wed  •  Page 7

Alexander Huckels was of German descent and as Jaan Kolk said given that the flagship product was “German Seltzer”, the flag in the trademark may have represented the National and merchant flag of the German Empire. Mr. Davis was noted as one of the managers of the company.

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
29 Aug 1895, Thu  •  Page 3

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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
15 Dec 1898, Thu  •  Page 6

Huckel’s was once located at 326-328 Queen Street in Ottawa-328 Queen St. E. has been vacant for more than a decade. It was extensively damaged in a 2009 by a fire that was blamed on faulty wiring.

David Helwig

Not much is known about his private life but in May of 1907 he began building a lovely home on Slater Street for a mere $4000.

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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
11 Sep 1897, Sat  •  Page 2

Of course with everything there were discrepancies in the water.. just like today..:P Check out the article below.

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ottawa Daily Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
13 Aug 1909, Fri  •  Page 4
Adin Wesley Daigle
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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
03 May 1899, Wed  •  Page 1

Interesting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

Where Were the Miracle Salt Springs in Pakenham? I Love a Challenge!

Social Note Shenanigans from the Almonte Gazette June 1899

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

“One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer” in Lanark County

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

The Marvellous Jaan Kolk

Talking Through Your Hat? Jaan Kolk

So Where Was Caldwell Mills? Thanks Jaan Kolk

The Thrift Store Couple – More Information-Jaan Kolk

The House on the Hill — Up the 8th Line of Ramsay — Jaan Kolk Files

Britannia Boat House Doomed— April 1907 Ice Jam –Jaan Kolk Files

Sign, Sign, Everywhere a Sign–Dr. Winters 154-160 Bridge Street Carleton Place –Jaan Kolk Files

Please take the Devil Out of Me? Rev. James Wilson of Lanark

Did You Know we Once Had a Grand Hotel? The Grand Central Hotel

The Cholera Epidemic of 1911

The Ashton Hotel– Questions Questions Flemmings and McFarlanes

Benoit & Richardson Photo– a Mystery

Before there was Baker Bob’s There was The Almonte Bakery

Does Anyone Remember Cohen’s in Lanark Village?

Interesting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

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Interesting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

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Photo-Adin Wesley Daigle

Our community Carleton Place archaeologist Adin Wesley Daigle posted this photo on Facebook and said it was his favourite bottle.  Not being a bottle collector I still had to agree and decided to investigate one R. E. Irvine from Ottawa. The bottle was great so I figured it must have a story!

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The only thing I could find out was that R. E Irvine was served a lawsuit in 1910 from the Sanitaris Co. in Ottawa. Well I knew who Sanitarius was as I had written about their affiliation to Diamond Park Mineral Water. Irvine bottled beer and other beverages like Lithia water. Lithia water is defined as a type of mineral water characterized by the presence of  lithium salts which he got from the Diamond Park and sold by Sanitarius. Natural lithia mineral spring waters are rare and between the 1880s and World War I, the consumption of bottled lithia mineral water was popular as well as the Mineral Water spas outside Pakenham. ( Diamond Springs and Dominion Springs).

Mr. Irvine also owned the local Ottawa Livery and Boarding Stable in Ottawa– but that is another story. Actually, it could be a series of stories from the vast amount of postings in the Ottawa newspapers.

As well as the waters business, R.E. Irvine purchased a high-end livery and riding stable in 1906. From the Citizen, April 26, 1906: Photo Jaan Kolk and information.

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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
03 Feb 1910, Thu  •  Page 11

Diamond Park Mineral Water was world famous in its day, and it was located near Arnprior.  Among the components in the water were salt and sulphur and the water was said to have curative powers dealing with rheumatic problems, hangover headaches and an aid in flushing the kidneys. Diamond Park Springs was located on the edge of Pakenham Township in the late 1800s, but was flooded by Ontario Hydro when the dam was put in place at the head pond. At one point there was a 12-room hotel on site and proved to be a popular spa in its day. The plant was later sold to Sanitaris Ltd. who continued bottling water from their plant at the corner of John and William streets behind the current LCBO in Arnprior.

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Sanitaris Natural Mineral Water Building, Arnprior, Canada–Date: 1914 Location:
John Street, Arnprior, Ontario, Canada

By 1910 R. E. Irvine looks like he was no longer running his namesake company and was letting someone else run it. (Morel Bros. Aerated Waters?)  Sanitaris was taking him to court for the disappearance of “empties” as we kids used to say.  Irvine said that they had been returned — Sanitarius said he or his successor had not. Needless to say Mr. Irvine’s company was on the hook for a grand sum of $480 unless all was returned.

Jaan Kolk said: “Irvine was a businessman, who came likely came to Ottawa for a business opportunity and left for a better one”. (I don’t think the minor legal disputes were of any importance.)

Jaan Kolk our favourite historian  found this: Robert Irvine, mineral waters 359 Wellington, boarding at Butler House, is listed in the 1901 Ottawa City Directory, The business seems to have peaked around 1909, when it was at 200 Bay Street. Still there as Irvine in 1911, it was shown as Morel Bros. Aerated Waters in 1912. Here is an Ottawa Journal ad from May 18, 1909. (above)

After researching — no mention of the case was made in the media again except for this one above Jaan Kolk  found from 1900. This Ottawa Citizen note from Aug. 25, 1900 on a suit over Irvine’s use of the name “Hygeia Water” mentions he was formerly in Toronto.   So what was Hugeia Water? J.J. McLaughlin started out professional life as a druggist and eventually focused on what started out as a typical pharmacy sideline, making soda water, which he initially called Hygeia Waters, the Hygeia, being a play on the word hygiene. McLaughlin’s Hygeia Waters were based on a Belfast dry ginger ale recipe. The name was rebranded as the much more successful Canada Dry.

Meanwhile, the case from Sanitarius stated that “judgement was reserved”. Most often, the judge will reserve judgment which means that the judge will take some time – days, weeks, or even months – to consider the matter before issuing the judgment and  it is usually written though it may be delivered orally. In this case Irvine had left from the Ottawa area, but if you looked hard enough you would see what happened. By 1910 the ads for the Irvine Company had stopped in the Ottawa Journal and The Ottawa Citizen and Irvine was now– wait for this– in Vancouver.

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May 1909- Ottawa Citizen

In May of 1909 it looks like R. E. was preparing for a future elsewhere. First there was a massive auction sale at his home on Slater and Bay. In June of the same year he transferred some land from R. E. Irvine to R. Irvine Ltd. In 1910 R. E. Irvine had bought and was running Cross & Co.  in Vancouver. The business had been under various ownerships. Originally founded by Mr. Cross D. Gavinit, as Vancouver Soda Water Works in 1896. Then purchased by the late J. J. Banfield, who remained owner until he sold his interests to the late R. E. Irvine. R.E.’s son E. L. Irvine bought the business from him in 1917. 

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Early Circa. 1915-30s British Columbia Soda Siphon / Syphon Seltzer Bottles – Cross and Company Vancouver BC

In an ironic twist like every trade or profession, Irvine’s venture into the Cross & Co soda water business had its troubles just like Sanitarius did with the R. E. Irvine Company in Ottawa. One of the chief problems was maintaining the bottle supply. Bottles cost the company 7 cents each, and since a deposit of only 5 cents a bottle is charged, a loss of 2 cents was sustained on very bottle not returned.

“When the public consider these figures it will realize the benefit, both to the consumer and to ourselves, of returning all empty bottles,” Mr. Irvine said. “For every bottle returned the customer reduces the cost of his thirst-quenchers by five cents. For every bottle not returned we lost two cents.” The loss on bottles was so heavy that Cross & Co. had to purchase $3000 worth annually to maintain its supply. Is this what happened to the R. E. Irvine Co in Ottawa or, was it just for a better opportunity as Jaan Kolk said?

One thing is for sure Mr. R. E. Irvine never set foot back in Ottawa until 1918 and the couple was described in the news as having been residents of Ottawa until 1910 and of course Sanitarius never got their money for the empties.

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The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
20 Oct 1928, Sat  •  Page 11

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Cross and Company Vancouver BC Then and Now.

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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
06 Jan 1898, Thu  •  Page 1

relatedreading

A. Huckels & Co. -The Story of a Bottle- Thanks to Jaan Kolk

Where Were the Miracle Salt Springs in Pakenham? I Love a Challenge!

Social Note Shenanigans from the Almonte Gazette June 1899

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

“One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer” in Lanark County

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

The Marvellous Jaan Kolk

Talking Through Your Hat? Jaan Kolk

So Where Was Caldwell Mills? Thanks Jaan Kolk

The Thrift Store Couple – More Information-Jaan Kolk

The House on the Hill — Up the 8th Line of Ramsay — Jaan Kolk Files

Britannia Boat House Doomed— April 1907 Ice Jam –Jaan Kolk Files