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The Beer Bottle Time Capsule on Emily Street?

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The Beer Bottle Time Capsule on Emily Street?
Photo Adin Wesley Daigle

Hey Linda, hope all is well we found this beer bottle in the wall upstairs while renovations commence here at the Daigle house. I thought maybe someone would recognize the names on it .

It says “Crammy” “Snidley” and “Emmat”

Anyone know???

Date of the bottle?

This is a longneck bottle so after 1983….

When Canadian breweries made the switch from stubby to longneck in 1983, each company had its own distinctive bottle. The decision to switch was made for marketing reasons. Sales were flat, and the major brewers thought a new bottle shape could give sales the boost they needed.

Molson shelled out a whopping $18 million to convert its bottling machines.

Reaction to the longneck was mixed. Some beer drinkers liked the new bottle for its style and feel. Others, however, resisted the Americanization of the beer bottle and lamented the loss of the little stubby.

In a Food in Canada article titled “Bring back the stubby!” writer David Menzies reveals that the stubby was almost resurrected in 1992 when Canadian brewing companies met to re-set the standard dimensions of the longneck. The stubby was passed over, however, when focus groups showed that women preferred the longneck to the stubby.

this logo dates back to at least as early as 1861. Molson had several brands that used this crown & anchor device before 1900. And a crown & anchor design that is pretty much the same still appears on our Stock Ale brand today. Which doesn’t really answer the question about the bottle opener, since this design has been around for quite a long time

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

The Big Beer Store Heist in Carleton Place

Who Stole The Beer Sign in Almonte?

Interesting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

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Interesting People –R. E. Irvine — The Story of a Bottle

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Photo-Adin Wesley Daigle

Our community Carleton Place archaeologist Adin Wesley Daigle posted this photo on Facebook and said it was his favourite bottle.  Not being a bottle collector I still had to agree and decided to investigate one R. E. Irvine from Ottawa. The bottle was great so I figured it must have a story!

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The only thing I could find out was that R. E Irvine was served a lawsuit in 1910 from the Sanitaris Co. in Ottawa. Well I knew who Sanitarius was as I had written about their affiliation to Diamond Park Mineral Water. Irvine bottled beer and other beverages like Lithia water. Lithia water is defined as a type of mineral water characterized by the presence of  lithium salts which he got from the Diamond Park and sold by Sanitarius. Natural lithia mineral spring waters are rare and between the 1880s and World War I, the consumption of bottled lithia mineral water was popular as well as the Mineral Water spas outside Pakenham. ( Diamond Springs and Dominion Springs).

Mr. Irvine also owned the local Ottawa Livery and Boarding Stable in Ottawa– but that is another story. Actually, it could be a series of stories from the vast amount of postings in the Ottawa newspapers.

As well as the waters business, R.E. Irvine purchased a high-end livery and riding stable in 1906. From the Citizen, April 26, 1906: Photo Jaan Kolk and information.

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The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
03 Feb 1910, Thu  •  Page 11

Diamond Park Mineral Water was world famous in its day, and it was located near Arnprior.  Among the components in the water were salt and sulphur and the water was said to have curative powers dealing with rheumatic problems, hangover headaches and an aid in flushing the kidneys. Diamond Park Springs was located on the edge of Pakenham Township in the late 1800s, but was flooded by Ontario Hydro when the dam was put in place at the head pond. At one point there was a 12-room hotel on site and proved to be a popular spa in its day. The plant was later sold to Sanitaris Ltd. who continued bottling water from their plant at the corner of John and William streets behind the current LCBO in Arnprior.

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Sanitaris Natural Mineral Water Building, Arnprior, Canada–Date: 1914 Location:
John Street, Arnprior, Ontario, Canada

By 1910 R. E. Irvine looks like he was no longer running his namesake company and was letting someone else run it. (Morel Bros. Aerated Waters?)  Sanitaris was taking him to court for the disappearance of “empties” as we kids used to say.  Irvine said that they had been returned — Sanitarius said he or his successor had not. Needless to say Mr. Irvine’s company was on the hook for a grand sum of $480 unless all was returned.

Jaan Kolk said: “Irvine was a businessman, who came likely came to Ottawa for a business opportunity and left for a better one”. (I don’t think the minor legal disputes were of any importance.)

Jaan Kolk our favourite historian  found this: Robert Irvine, mineral waters 359 Wellington, boarding at Butler House, is listed in the 1901 Ottawa City Directory, The business seems to have peaked around 1909, when it was at 200 Bay Street. Still there as Irvine in 1911, it was shown as Morel Bros. Aerated Waters in 1912. Here is an Ottawa Journal ad from May 18, 1909. (above)

After researching — no mention of the case was made in the media again except for this one above Jaan Kolk  found from 1900. This Ottawa Citizen note from Aug. 25, 1900 on a suit over Irvine’s use of the name “Hygeia Water” mentions he was formerly in Toronto.   So what was Hugeia Water? J.J. McLaughlin started out professional life as a druggist and eventually focused on what started out as a typical pharmacy sideline, making soda water, which he initially called Hygeia Waters, the Hygeia, being a play on the word hygiene. McLaughlin’s Hygeia Waters were based on a Belfast dry ginger ale recipe. The name was rebranded as the much more successful Canada Dry.

Meanwhile, the case from Sanitarius stated that “judgement was reserved”. Most often, the judge will reserve judgment which means that the judge will take some time – days, weeks, or even months – to consider the matter before issuing the judgment and  it is usually written though it may be delivered orally. In this case Irvine had left from the Ottawa area, but if you looked hard enough you would see what happened. By 1910 the ads for the Irvine Company had stopped in the Ottawa Journal and The Ottawa Citizen and Irvine was now– wait for this– in Vancouver.

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May 1909- Ottawa Citizen

In May of 1909 it looks like R. E. was preparing for a future elsewhere. First there was a massive auction sale at his home on Slater and Bay. In June of the same year he transferred some land from R. E. Irvine to R. Irvine Ltd. In 1910 R. E. Irvine had bought and was running Cross & Co.  in Vancouver. The business had been under various ownerships. Originally founded by Mr. Cross D. Gavinit, as Vancouver Soda Water Works in 1896. Then purchased by the late J. J. Banfield, who remained owner until he sold his interests to the late R. E. Irvine. R.E.’s son E. L. Irvine bought the business from him in 1917. 

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Early Circa. 1915-30s British Columbia Soda Siphon / Syphon Seltzer Bottles – Cross and Company Vancouver BC

In an ironic twist like every trade or profession, Irvine’s venture into the Cross & Co soda water business had its troubles just like Sanitarius did with the R. E. Irvine Company in Ottawa. One of the chief problems was maintaining the bottle supply. Bottles cost the company 7 cents each, and since a deposit of only 5 cents a bottle is charged, a loss of 2 cents was sustained on very bottle not returned.

“When the public consider these figures it will realize the benefit, both to the consumer and to ourselves, of returning all empty bottles,” Mr. Irvine said. “For every bottle returned the customer reduces the cost of his thirst-quenchers by five cents. For every bottle not returned we lost two cents.” The loss on bottles was so heavy that Cross & Co. had to purchase $3000 worth annually to maintain its supply. Is this what happened to the R. E. Irvine Co in Ottawa or, was it just for a better opportunity as Jaan Kolk said?

One thing is for sure Mr. R. E. Irvine never set foot back in Ottawa until 1918 and the couple was described in the news as having been residents of Ottawa until 1910 and of course Sanitarius never got their money for the empties.

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The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
20 Oct 1928, Sat  •  Page 11

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Cross and Company Vancouver BC Then and Now.

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 - The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
06 Jan 1898, Thu  •  Page 1

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Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

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Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

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Carleton Place is Like Kansas of the United States

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Carleton Place is Like Kansas of the United States

 

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Bill Prime was the youngest Mayor of Carleton Place. He was 31. He also worked as assistant manager of the Brewer’s Retail store.

 

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Information where you can buy all Linda Seccaspina’s books-You can also read Linda in The Townships Sun andScreamin’ Mamas (USA)

Come and visit the Lanark County Genealogical Society Facebook page– what’s there? Cool old photos–and lots of things interesting to read. Also check out The Tales of Carleton Place.

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They Once Lived in My Home– Arthur Cram

Don’t Bring Your Guns to Town!

Mrs. James Lawrie and Her Ginger Beer

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Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

The Big Beer Store Heist in Carleton Place

Mississippi Hotel Beer — Brading’s Beer

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Photo from the Carleton Place and Beckwith Museum Instagram Page

Alan Lewis from Bytown or Bust added this information about the beer bottle from the Mississippi Hotel in Carleton Place.

This beer, Bradings , was brewed in an old brewery near the  downtown of Ottawa. After WWII, most of the beer sold in Ottawa was brewed by Brading’s. I remember seeing many of these bottles when I was young. Brading’s must have been swallowed up by one of the large breweries, maybe Molson’s or Labatt’s. For Chaudiere Falls / Lebreton Flats history see www.bytown.net/chaudiere.htm. … Allan Lewis- Bytown or Bust

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The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
10 Dec 1942, Thu  •  Page 14

How to Paint “The Moose”

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Oh good Lord, yesterday I read a Facebook thread about the paint condition on our local watering hole The Thirsty Moose on Bridge Street.

This is what it used to look like

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The building was originally Levine’s dry goods store. The store began in 1921, and was owned and operated by Phillip and Leah Levine until 1983. In February 1986 there was a destructive fire but the building was rebuilt to match the original! Here is a photo of the building in circa 1925: Shane Edwards said the stained glass window from the second floor front middle window was saved and then reinstalled in the new building.

This is The Moose today.

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The photo above is how most “Carleton Placeites” feel about The Moose. I spent 8 hours in The Moose a month or so ago interviewing Trevor Barr about his travels. It feels like being at home in your living room. But, someone spoke about the condition of the building, and posed this statement on Facebook’s Carleton Place Restaurant And Retail Review.

“Help me understand how the dilapidated Thirsty Moose building, garners so many patrons? What message does this send to future homeowners when they come to our downtown?”

and so the comments began………………………….

Dana Read– If less people want to go there because of how it looks I’m all for it. It just means more barons, wings and vodka for meeee

Steph Langford– It doesn’t look bad. They serve good food and everyone has a good time going there. It needs paint…a lot of buildings in town do

Melissa Renaud– If the local CP People read the EMC, a couple months back there was a huge article about how the Thirsty Moose is getting a rehaul very soon! Look it up.

I agree with Elspeth Hunter who said:

Sometimes it’s what’s on the inside that matters”

I say,

To hell with the paint…God Bless you Bubba, and Goodnight Carleton Place!

As for painting The Moose.. well I will leave you with this.:) maybe you can get some ideas.

Read Ted MacDonald’s Last Ale Report- after all we are just her for a good time.

Thanks Dave for the photo!

The Carleton Place Ale Trail — What “Ales” You Asks The Ted Report?

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Another Carleton Place Ted MacDonald  report! 

Have you ever wondered what the most popular beers are in downtown Carleton Place? Lets take a stroll down Bridge Street and find out.

First stop is the Thirsty Moose on the west side. We asked Jamie (niceJamie not big Jamie) what are the best sellers. They are Coors Lite,Canadian and Creemore Springs. If Gail did not go there Coors Lite may not have been at the top. I usually have a Heineken when I drop in. The Moose is a great sports bar since Bubba took it over. They organize trips to the Sens games and will have golf or football etc, on the many Tvs but not so loud you can’t have a chat. Except on Thursday, which is wing night, and can be a little noisy but fun.

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Next up on the east side is St. James Gate. Most popular beers according to Jamie (another Jamie, but this one is a tall pleasant young lady) and Rebecca (her sister Jenna works at the Moose) are Harp, Perth Amber and Kronnenburg Blanc. I often meet my old friends from Stats Canada, Carl and Dave, there on a Friday evening to have a little computer techie talk. They usually will have the aforementioned Blanc and I have a Guinness. In case you didn’t know Guinness is brewed at St. James Gate in Dublin hence the pub name.

Let’s Stay on the east side and stop at Ballygiblins. Another British Pub owned by great guy Derick. Favourite beers are Beaus, Barking Squirrel and Ashton Amber. I always order the Beaus Lugtread. A great beer from Vancleek Hill. A few years ago I had a broken leg and the Beaus brothers would deliver an ice cold keg to our home and I would hook it up to my draft system but that is another story.

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Editor’s Note: Ted- I think we would really like to hear that story! 🙂

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Now across the street to The Queens, one of Carleton Place’s oldest establishments. They are selling a lot of Coors lite, Canadian and Bud Lite. Gail and I were there for St. Patrick’s day so I had a green beer of some sort. Gail, of course, had a Coors Lite, bottle, no glass. (inside joke). They had a great band and we are hoping for more live music at this wonderful spot.

Over the river to Bell Street and the Waterfront Gastro Pub. Worth going there just for the name but they have some great beers also. Arguably the best drought taps in town. Their most popular beers are Red Racer, Keith’s Pale Ale and Kronnenburg Blanc. We went there during the“Walmart Blackout” as north of the river still had power. A lot of people went to Almonte because they thought the whole town was out but they just could have gone to the Bistro. Don’t wait for the next power outage. Overlooking the Mississippi, they truly have the best patio in the summer time. Hope they get the Blues Band back on Sundays. Check it out.

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Back across the bridge and near the town-hall on Mill Street is Slackonis. Not a pub but they also have a great patio in the summer where you can sit out and watch the river flow. According to Rob the favourite is the Italian beer Moretti, however, they sell more wine than beer. Try a glass of Pinot Grigio for white fans or a Cabernet Sauvignonfor those of us who prefer red while sitting by the dam.

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Also on the west side of Bridge Street is the Excuses Bar and Grill.This is attached to the Visions Bowling Centre so you can have a cold one after knocking all those pins down.

Not downtown but a worth a look is the Tap House Grill and Sports Bar in the McNeely Plaza. Their most popular beverages are Bud, Bud Lite and Keith’s IPA. I will have to give it a closer look when I can get a DD to
give me a lift.

You can check out most of these establishments on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Thirsty-Moose-Pub-Eatery/45746231945?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/stjamesgatecp?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballygiblins-Restaurant-Pub/134544876572777?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-New-Queens-and-The-Kings-Kitchen/744729362230074?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/TheWaterfrontGastropub?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/Slackonis?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/taphousegrillandbar?fref=ts

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Don’t forget to read Ted’s Carleton Place’s Good Eats blog he did last week!

The Carleton Place Ale Trail — What “Ales” You Asks The Ted Report?

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Another Carleton Place Ted MacDonald  report! 

Have you ever wondered what the most popular beers are in downtown Carleton Place? Lets take a stroll down Bridge Street and find out.

First stop is the Thirsty Moose on the west side. We asked Jamie (niceJamie not big Jamie) what are the best sellers. They are Coors Lite,Canadian and Creemore Springs. If Gail did not go there Coors Lite may not have been at the top. I usually have a Heineken when I drop in. The Moose is a great sports bar since Bubba took it over. They organize trips to the Sens games and will have golf or football etc, on the many Tvs but not so loud you can’t have a chat. Except on Thursday, which is wing night, and can be a little noisy but fun.

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Next up on the east side is St. James Gate. Most popular beers according to Jamie (another Jamie, but this one is a tall pleasant young lady) and Rebecca (her sister Jenna works at the Moose) are Harp, Perth Amber and Kronnenburg Blanc. I often meet my old friends from Stats Canada, Carl and Dave, there on a Friday evening to have a little computer techie talk. They usually will have the aforementioned Blanc and I have a Guinness. In case you didn’t know Guinness is brewed at St. James Gate in Dublin hence the pub name.

Let’s Stay on the east side and stop at Ballygiblins. Another British Pub owned by great guy Derick. Favourite beers are Beaus, Barking Squirrel and Ashton Amber. I always order the Beaus Lugtread. A great beer from Vancleek Hill. A few years ago I had a broken leg and the Beaus brothers would deliver an ice cold keg to our home and I would hook it up to my draft system but that is another story.

Editor’s Note: Ted- I think we would really like to hear that story! 🙂

aballyss

Now across the street to The Queens, one of Carleton Place’s oldest establishments. They are selling a lot of Coors lite, Canadian and Bud Lite. Gail and I were there for St. Patrick’s day so I had a green beer of some sort. Gail, of course, had a Coors Lite, bottle, no glass. (inside joke). They had a great band and we are hoping for more live music at this wonderful spot.

Over the river to Bell Street and the Waterfront Gastro Pub. Worth going there just for the name but they have some great beers also. Arguably the best drought taps in town. Their most popular beers are Red Racer, Keith’s Pale Ale and Kronnenburg Blanc. We went there during the“Walmart Blackout” as north of the river still had power. A lot of people went to Almonte because they thought the whole town was out but they just could have gone to the Bistro. Don’t wait for the next power outage. Overlooking the Mississippi, they truly have the best patio in the summer time. Hope they get the Blues Band back on Sundays. Check it out.

aslcak

Back across the bridge and near the town-hall on Mill Street is Slackonis. Not a pub but they also have a great patio in the summer where you can sit out and watch the river flow. According to Rob the favourite is the Italian beer Moretti, however, they sell more wine than beer. Try a glass of Pinot Grigio for white fans or a Cabernet Sauvignonfor those of us who prefer red while sitting by the dam.

the-waterfront-gastropub

Also on the west side of Bridge Street is the Excuses Bar and Grill.This is attached to the Visions Bowling Centre so you can have a cold one after knocking all those pins down.

Not downtown but a worth a look is the Tap House Grill and Sports Bar in the McNeely Plaza. Their most popular beverages are Bud, Bud Lite and Keith’s IPA. I will have to give it a closer look when I can get a DD to
give me a lift.

You can check out most of these establishments on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Thirsty-Moose-Pub-Eatery/45746231945?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/stjamesgatecp?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballygiblins-Restaurant-Pub/134544876572777?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-New-Queens-and-The-Kings-Kitchen/744729362230074?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/TheWaterfrontGastropub?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/Slackonis?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/taphousegrillandbar?fref=ts

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Don’t forget to read Ted’s Carleton Place’s Good Eats blog he did last week!

Lorne Hart– The Old Towne Bakery — A Recipe is Just a Recipe

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Lorne Hart– The Old Towne Bakery — A Recipe is Just a Recipe

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When I met Lorne Hart I never put two and two together. I honestly never realized that he was THE Lorne Hart, who founded Hart’s Brewery Company in 1991. I always knew years ago that Lorne was way ahead of the current trends of craft beer. Long before some of these hipsters were opening their craft beer drinking palaces Lorne was negotiating a contract to brew and market the “brewtiful” Dragon’s Breath Pale Ale Company for a small brew pub in Kingston, Ontario.

The Montreal native made Carleton Place the town to be when he opened up Hart’s Brewery. He initially looked at Almonte, but Mayor Melba Barker welcomed Hart’s Brewery with open arms.Things have changed now. Years ago the LCBO levies etc. were staggering, and they financially crippled small breweries. But now, taxes and levies are lower, and the LCBO is encouraging small brewers. To those that think he is out of the game, you would be mistaken. After all, life is too short for boring beer brands. Lorne is heavily involved with the Ashton Brewing Company that operates out of the Old Mill at Ashton near Carleton Place.

I sat there and scratched my head– Lorne bakes too? I guess the British had it right when they maintained that every soldier was entitled to at least a pail of ale and a loaf of bread per day. No matter what the recipe,  not just any baker can do wonders in the kitchen with some good ingredients and an upbeat attitude. The former naval petty officer has worn many hats. Managing director for the National Press Club, commercial real estate, Hart’s Brewery, and owner of The Old Towne Bakery in Carleton Place for the past 10 years.

I was curious to know what leads a man to become a baker. During his stint in real estate he saw that the bakery on Lake Ave West was for sale. He interned for a few months and realized like the beer business, it was all about the yeast. With my history in bread baking I beg to differ, but Lorne jumped in hook, line, and bakery pan, and never looked back. But as he says, “Remember the other persons job may appear easy, until you try it”.

Like every other business, stabilizing and making a profit is the number one goal. He is officially retired, but he views the bakery as a challenge. When the country’s tides in business grew grey, he jumped in and became the head baker once again. Lorne is not afraid to face a challenge. That is evident.

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If you are looking for gluten free The Old Towne Bakery is not the place to go. Unlike a lot of restaurants I have seen, Lorne understands that a true gluten-free product needs a special working area and pans. He knows all about cross contamination. So, he guarantees the health of celiacs and leaves that to others.

In 2014 he restructured, redecorated, and introduced a pudding cake, chelsea buns, and raspberry pound cake among other things. I know as well as everyone else there is no bread like the Old Towne Bakery in Carleton Place. Want a little bit of heaven? Their raspberry filled cookies are so good they are always in hot demand. Did you know the Olde Towne Bakery also sells frozen pizza dough? It makes a delicious homemade pizza that anyone can make!

The High School kids come in every day at lunch and visit their adopted Mum Kathy. They buy fresh made sandwiches, and big cookies. Kathy says they are all good kids. But, be polite in your actions and manners, as she jokes she knows all your Mothers. Running late? Don’t forget to pick some up some homemade soup. Remember the way to a man’s heart is with bribery!

Lorne really is The Happy Baker and posts daily good thoughts on The Old Town Bakery Facebook page. He recently posted that after a hectic Easter Weekend, last Thursday and Saturday, the town cleaned them out. Now they are all busy little beavers baking to restock their shelves.

The man with the smile always speaks well of people and hates gossip. When I asked how he would change the downtown area he told me a story. The town hired a consultant in the 1990’s under Brian Costello’s watch on how to improve the Main Street. The consultants first words on the report was that, (and I will put it nicely) it wasn’t the most attractive Main Street in the area. As Lorne says the street needs cohesiveness.

Lorne and his bakery love the community and the town loves them. To those wanting to go in the bakery business he has these thoughts,

I got up early this morning ( 3:30 AM) a baker’s life is an early to bed early to rise sort of thing. Remember this, early to bed early to rise, makes you tired.

Funny, I never saw a tired bone in his body!


The Old Towne Bakery


73 Lake Ave. West

Carleton Place, Ontario

(613) 253-0666