Being A Charles Dobbie Groupie — Balderson Before Selfies

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Being A Charles Dobbie Groupie — Balderson Before Selfies

A selfie isn’t fundamentally about the photographer’s relationship with the camera, it’s about the photographer’s relationship with an audience. In other words, selfies are more parts communication than self-admiration (though there’s a healthy dose of that, too)  Our local museums love getting old photographs because sometimes you can see what the past was like in the backgrounds of these pictures.

I have been a groupie of many things through my life– lately, it is the historical photograph and recordings of Charles Dobbie.

Photographs of a fair, c.1912, Balderson, Ontari

Here are some I wanted to share.

 

Photos of a Fair, at Balderson, Ont., c. 1912. Charles Dobie-https://www.ontariohistory.org/fair.htm

The  photographs below are from the Dawson Kerr collection in the Perth Museum, Perth, Ont. Mr. Kerr was raised in in the village of Fallbrook, Ont., just a couple of miles north-west of Balderson, where this fair was located (see Don McGregor’s email to me below). I had previously speculated on this website that the location of the fair was Fallbrook, but Don McGregor has set the record straight. The two photos show different views of the same crowd.

On Sept. 29, 2005 I received an email from Donald McGregor, who grew up on his grandfather’s farm which is shown in these photographs. I’ve combined his original email with two others of October 17 & 18, in which he answers my question about the fate of the original Balderson Presbyterian Church. He says in part:

” . . . The second complete set of photos is definitely identified as taken place at Balderson. The location is on the farm of James C. McGregor, presently occupied by James C. McGregor a great-grandson, and Howard J. McGregor a grandson.

The fair was set up with the tents just south of the present barn built in 1948, along side the Lanark Road (Hwy 511). I grew up in Balderson on this farm — Donald C. McGregor b. 1941.

The building on the extreme right of the panoramic view is a machine shed which was once the original Balderson Presbyterian Church built about 1839 and moved to this location . . . by my grandfather J. C. McGregor.

The “Old Church” as it was called in my farm days was moved to the very spot where the School Fair tent was located. The new Presbyterian Church was officially dedicated Sept 1904, although the old church was located temporarily close to the original location. It was therefore moved to the McGregor farm 1905. It remained as a machine shed for about 65 years until it was moved from the roadside location to an adjoining field in 1970. It remained there until it was torn down in July 1975. I was there the day that it was pulled down by chains from a tractor. Ironically, the morticed joints assembled by the earliest Scottish Presbyterians in 1839, sturdily held in place, and only after several attempts did the frame finally succumb and was pulled to the ground. Howard McGregor and his son Jim were responsible for moving and relocating and demolition.

The windmill as seen over the top of the barn, that part which is still standing at the east end of the barn beside the road, was installed in about 1912 ???

In the Perth Courier, there was reference to a prize list from this fair which I would believe included schools from the Bathurst and Drummond Twps. My uncle Neil McGregor participated in this fair and won a prize. He was born in 1901, and if attending this school would have been 10 – 11 years old.

(Quoting an) article from the Perth Courier re: School Fair at Balderson 1912 & 1913. Ten school sections were represented at the fair which probably included the schools of Bathurst and Drummond. The Balderson School was a union of both Bathurst and Drummond. In 1912 Neil McGregor won a prize for potatoes and in 1913 he placed 4th with another pupil for an oratorical presentation “Stick to the Farm”. Ironically it was Neil’s brother John (b. 1899) who was to be the farmer while Neil worked for a bank in Montreal.

The elm trees are evident in the photo. These trees lined the west side of the Lanark Road (Hwy 511) in front of the McGregor property. At one time there were close to 20 stately elms which must have been planted mid 1800’s. Several were gone before the 1940’s and the last was removed in the 1970’s for widening of the road. Also Dutch Elm disease had taken its toll, and wind storms. “

Balderson Photos 2015—Linda Seccaspina

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photograph of a fair, Balderson, Ont. 1912
Second photograph of a fair in Balderson, Ont. The windmill seen over the top of the barn was installed c. 1912.

A selfie isn’t fundamentally about the photographer’s relationship with the camera, it’s about the photographer’s relationship with an audience. In other words, selfies are more parts communication than self-admiration (though there’s a healthy dose of that, too)  Our local museums love getting old photographs because sometimes you can see what the past was like in the backgrounds of these pictures.

I have been a groupie of many things through my life– lately, it is the historical photograph and recordings of Charles Dobbie.

http://www.ontariohistory.org

Photographs of a fair, c.1912, Balderson, Ontari

Here are some I wanted to share.

Photos of a Fair, at Balderson, Ont., c. 1912. Charles Dobie-https://www.ontariohistory.org/fair.htm

The  photographs below are from the Dawson Kerr collection in the Perth Museum, Perth, Ont. Mr. Kerr was raised in in the village of Fallbrook, Ont., just a couple of miles north-west of Balderson, where this fair was located (see Don McGregor’s email to me below). I had previously speculated on this website that the location of the fair was Fallbrook, but Don McGregor has set the record straight. The two photos show different views of the same crowd.

On Sept. 29, 2005 I received an email from Donald McGregor, who grew up on his grandfather’s farm which is shown in these photographs. I’ve combined his original email with two others of October 17 & 18, in which he answers my question about the fate of the original Balderson Presbyterian Church. He says in part:

” . . . The second complete set of photos is definitely identified as taken place at Balderson. The location is on the farm of James C. McGregor, presently occupied by James C. McGregor a great-grandson, and Howard J. McGregor a grandson.

The fair was set up with the tents just south of the present barn built in 1948, along side the Lanark Road (Hwy 511). I grew up in Balderson on this farm — Donald C. McGregor b. 1941.

The building on the extreme right of the panoramic view is a machine shed which was once the original Balderson Presbyterian Church built about 1839 and moved to this location . . . by my grandfather J. C. McGregor.

The “Old Church” as it was called in my farm days was moved to the very spot where the School Fair tent was located. The new Presbyterian Church was officially dedicated Sept 1904, although the old church was located temporarily close to the original location. It was therefore moved to the McGregor farm 1905. It remained as a machine shed for about 65 years until it was moved from the roadside location to an adjoining field in 1970. It remained there until it was torn down in July 1975. I was there the day that it was pulled down by chains from a tractor. Ironically, the morticed joints assembled by the earliest Scottish Presbyterians in 1839, sturdily held in place, and only after several attempts did the frame finally succumb and was pulled to the ground. Howard McGregor and his son Jim were responsible for moving and relocating and demolition.

The windmill as seen over the top of the barn, that part which is still standing at the east end of the barn beside the road, was installed in about 1912 ???

In the Perth Courier, there was reference to a prize list from this fair which I would believe included schools from the Bathurst and Drummond Twps. My uncle Neil McGregor participated in this fair and won a prize. He was born in 1901, and if attending this school would have been 10 – 11 years old.

(Quoting an) article from the Perth Courier re: School Fair at Balderson 1912 & 1913. Ten school sections were represented at the fair which probably included the schools of Bathurst and Drummond. The Balderson School was a union of both Bathurst and Drummond. In 1912 Neil McGregor won a prize for potatoes and in 1913 he placed 4th with another pupil for an oratorical presentation “Stick to the Farm”. Ironically it was Neil’s brother John (b. 1899) who was to be the farmer while Neil worked for a bank in Montreal.

The elm trees are evident in the photo. These trees lined the west side of the Lanark Road (Hwy 511) in front of the McGregor property. At one time there were close to 20 stately elms which must have been planted mid 1800’s. Several were gone before the 1940’s and the last was removed in the 1970’s for widening of the road. Also Dutch Elm disease had taken its toll, and wind storms. “

Balderson Photos 2015—Linda Seccaspina

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About lindaseccaspina

Before she laid her fingers to a keyboard, Linda was a fashion designer, and then owned the eclectic store Flash Cadilac and Savannah Devilles in Ottawa on Rideau Street from 1976-1996. She also did clothing for various media and worked on “You Can’t do that on Television”. After writing for years about things that she cared about or pissed her off on American media she finally found her calling. She is a weekly columnist for the Sherbrooke Record and documents history every single day and has over 6500 blogs about Lanark County and Ottawa and an enormous weekly readership. Linda has published six books and is in her 4th year as a town councillor for Carleton Place. She believes in community and promoting business owners because she believes she can, so she does.

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  1. Just loved this one Linda as I also grew up in this area and know this story of the old church as well and yes the windmill was still there last time I was home .It stands like an icon for the days gone by that’s for sure! The only thing that is amiss is the spelling of Dobie as you forgot to add another D . This is a relative of mine and it should have bee spelled as Dobbie , But then maybe Mr Mcgregor had a mispronunciation of it. Just thought that this might help if you were looking for Charlie”s memoirs as he was one of the first of the historical people in the area to do a lot of research and documentation as far as I know. I used to just love visiting him for hours and listening to the stories that he would tell. His favorite saying was never forget where you come from and you will always know where you are going!
    Thanks again for such a great job!

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    • Thanks Rose… I feel like I know you and I just love anything I see my him.. I have seen his name spelled so many ways– but I know you know what is the right way.. HUGGGGGG.. and Elsie Gardnier said the same saying LOLOL

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